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Victory Records Victory Records is a Chicago-based record label founded by Tony Brummel. It operates a music publishing company called "Another Victory, Inc." and is the distributor of several record labels. It has featured many prominent artists including Thur ...

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Jersey City Jersey City is the second-most populous city in the U.S. state of New Jersey, after Newark.Sal Villanueva, who served as the producer, the production team and members of different bands contributed additional instrumentation to the recordings. ''Full Collapse'' is considered a

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album. Preceded by a two-month United States tour, the album's release was promoted with a short series of shows. The band toured the US in 2001, with

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,

Waterdown Waterdown was a hardcore punk and post-hardcore band from Osnabrück, Germany. The band emerged onto the scene in 1999 under the formation of: Axel Pralat (guitar), Marcel Bischoff (vocals), Jörg Schwoeppe (drums), Christian Kruse (bass), Holger ...

,

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. At the end of the year, the band released

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s for "

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" and "Cross Out the Eyes". In early 2002, keyboardist Andrew Everding joined the band. They went on tour with

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and

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and appeared on the

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soon afterwards. Around this time, the band made it known that they had several issues with Victory Records and its founder, Tony Brummel. Thursday has performed the album in its entirety on tours in 2011 and 2018. ''Full Collapse'' peaked at number 178 on the US ''Billboard'' 200. It also appeared on two ''

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'' component charts: number ten on

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, and number nine on the

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. The album received favorable reviews from

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, many of whom praised the album's musicianship. It is referred to as a classic

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album and praised as one of the best emo albums of all time, by publications such as ''

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'', ''

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'', and ''

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''. It has influenced bands such as

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,

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, and

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.

Background and production

Thursday released their debut album, ''

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'', was released in November 1999 through

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. With the band touring more often, all of the members dropped out of

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. As they lacked a permanent second guitarist, the band had multiple people filling in on guitar. Guitarist Steve Pedulla, whose brother was friends with members of Thursday, joined the band in 2000 after filling in for a show. Eyeball was aware that Thursday was outgrowing what support they could provide, and asked other labels to sign the band. ''Waiting'' received enough attention to be noticed by

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, who flew out representatives to watch them play a show in their hometown. By the time the band signed with Victory, they were able to tour full-time. Drummer Tucker Rule said the reason they went with Victory was that the label had previously signed

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and

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. Bassist Tim Payne said Thursday was one of a few acts that strayed from the label's typical

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style. After signing, they were told by their friends that they would find themselves in "a situation that we would regret". The members of Thursday were unsure what their friends were referring to – they assumed that the signing would work out fine. They wrote the new songs in a collaborative manner. In comparison, most of the songs on ''Waiting'' were written by a single person. The majority of the songs that ended up on ''Full Collapse'' were written in the basement of frontman

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's parents' house. They began recording the new album after a US tour. Sessions were held at Big Blue Meenie Recording Studios in

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s, with assistance from Codie Brown. Giles mixed the recordings, before the album was

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by Timo G. Less at Surgical Sound.

Music and lyrics

''Full Collapse'' has been mainly described as a

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release, while also being labelled as

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,

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, and hardcore punk. Throughout the album, Rickly's singing switches between

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to

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. It lacks some of the typical traits of emo in favor of

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-like picking in a

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, against

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s. Members of other bands and members of the production team contributed various instrumentations to the tracks: Farley with additional guitar on "

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"; Joe Darone of the Rosenbergs with additional vocals on "Autobiography of a Nation"; Tom Schlatter of the Assistant with additional vocals on "Autobiography of a Nation" and "Cross Out the Eyes"; Villanueva with additional guitar on "Autobiography of a Nation" and "Wind-Up"; Giles with

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and melotone on "Paris in Flames"; and Frank Giokas of Unsound with additional guitar on "Standing on the Edge of Summer". The opening track, "A0001", sees Rickly pondering whether a robot is capable of dreaming, as

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gives way to two

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hits. He said people were "pending so much of our time in front of computers that it's feeling like we're becoming robots". "Understanding in a Car Crash" details the death by car crash of Rickly's girlfriend and best friend and his subsequent visit to the hospital. Rickly said the song was inspired by what they were listening to at the time,

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, and put that "within the realm of hardcore". "Concealer" is a short

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song that is followed by

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-esque "Autobiography of a Nation", which talks about

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. "A Hole in the World" features a guitar riff in the vein of Jawbreaker; it ends with a piano part. "Cross Out the Eyes" is the heaviest song on the album, featuring screaming from Schlatter. Rickly said he wrote it about wanting to "obliterat the whole authorial me-me-me-this-is-about-me tance; it was one of the first song he wrote on guitar. "Paris in Flames" discusses

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and

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, as well as mentioning prejudices that a gay friend of Rickly's had faced. "Standing on the Edge of Summer" talks about impending death and reuses a guitar effect heard in "Understanding in a Car Crash". "Wind-Up" begins with a slow verse section that gives away to a screaming chorus, complete with dueling vocals. "How Long Is the Night?" is about Rickly's partner in French class, who would lay on the train tracks behind their school, wishing that the a train would run them over. The album ends with "i1100", which consists of distorted sound effects.

Release

Initial touring and promotion

Thursday announced ''Full Collapse'' on February 5, 2001, for release two months later. The band created hype for the album by touring the United States for two months with bands Midtown, Grey AM, and

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. On March 19, 2001, "Cross Out the Eyes" was posted as a free download through Victory Records' website. ''Full Collapse'' was released on April 10, 2001 through Victory. The design of the physical was debated: the band hoped to create a booklet of artwork for ''Full Collapse'' but were discouraged by Victory founder Tony Brummel who insisted on a less expensive one-page insert without printed lyrics. A compromise was reached, which resulted in the final chosen packaging. The album's release was promoted with a series of shows with Midtown and

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. In June 2001, Thursday embarked on an east coast US tour with

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and Fairweather. In July, the band toured with BoySetsFire,

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, and

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. Following this, they toured across the US with

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and

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until August. After three shows with

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, the band toured with

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. In October, the band toured the west coast for a week with

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and

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, before touring the east coast with

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,

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, and Recover in November. Thursday toured with

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and

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until the end of the year. In December 2001, the music video for "Understanding in a Car Crash", which consists of live footage, began airing on

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,

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, and

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. Following this, a music video directed by

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. They were denied clearance at the Canada–US border, and as a result, had to cancel a show. Shortly afterwards, the band appeared at the Skate and Surf festival. They had planned to support Face to Face on their headlining US tour, but were replaced by the Movielife.

Issues with Victory and subsequent touring

In May 2002, as Thursday's signing to

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had become imminent, the band released a statement through their website detailing their internal problems with Victory and reasons for leaving. The band said they had higher aspirations for the album art for ''Full Collapse'', which were undone by Brummel's desire to keep costs down. During a visit to Victory's offices, they also discovered that for promotional purposes, the label made Thursday-branded

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s, which were intended to be distributed to fans at the Warped Tour. They were produced without Thursday's consent and so were discontinued. The band continually emphasized the need to communicate regarding art direction and promotion, but were allegedly ignored by Brummel and told that Victory was too big to run everything past its artists. In a meeting with Brummel, he claimed that Thursday was not living up to his expectations, with the band's statement explaining: "Instead of Tony's relationship with us being based on a love for music, it was based entirely on numbers." However, by late 2001, Brummel began showing more concern for the band and called more frequently regarding sales. They soon learned that Brummel planned to sell part of Victory to MCA and, as Thursday's contract only allowed them to leave Victory for a

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, began reciprocating new-found interest from prominent labels. By early 2002, the decision to join Island was made as MCA began promoting ''Full Collapse'' as their own, and Thursday found itself in a legal battle with the label. Rickly would later note: "When we parted ways with Victory, we got our asses kicked. ..Victory's lawyers were so strong." Between late June and mid-August, the band went on the 2002 Warped Tour. Following this, the band appeared at the Bizarre,

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,

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. Though the band were not planning on doing another tour, they appeared at three shows on the Plea for Peace tour. Keeley said the band had heard about the tour from the previous year, and felt it was an appropriate way to end the touring cycle for ''Full Collapse''. Live versions of "Understanding in a Car Crash", "Autobiography of a Nation", "Paris in Flames", and "Standing on the Edge of Summer" would appear on the band's second EP ''

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'' (2002). Thursday would later use Victory's lawyers to leave Island in 2007 and reunite with Brummel to work on the live/video album '' Kill the House Lights'' (2007). It chronicles the band's career with a documentary and concert footage emphasizing the ''Full Collapse'' era. It also features demos and alternate versions of songs from that album.

Critical reception

''Full Collapse'' was met with generally favourable reviews from

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. Chris Collum of ''

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'' wrote that "Thursday are something special, something that is almost unique, and this album–of their five–does the best job of getting that across." He said that the album's "biggest draw musically" was the way it moves between the "harsh and abrasive to the ambient and soothing in a matter of mere seconds". Punknews.org founder Aubin Paul said the album "delivers on the promise" of their debut "and then some". He added that there was "some serious intensity here, great powerful riffs, and a singer who can actually sing, and scream."

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staff member DaveyBoy said that while it wasn't the "most immediate album of all time", listeners would be "rewarded as Thursday get the best out of themselves here and hardly put a foot wrong". He praised the musicianship as being "top notch throughout, while the vocals are pleasingly satisfactory". ''

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'' reviewer Joachim Hiller found that Thursday had "two faces, which on the one hand comes across as super pop, ndon the other hand relies on the 'Dr. Jekyll & Mr. Hyde' principle when it comes to singing: sometimes gentle, sometimes screamy, then brutal". Stuart Green of ''

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'' wrote that the album "sounds sort of like a jam session showdown between

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and

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". He adds that the band "take us on a wild 14-track ride that starts with the careening "Understanding In a Car Crash" and doesn't stop until some 40 minutes later." The staff at ''

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'' said hardcore fanatics would be "dissatisfied with the mingling of genres but Thursday handles the juggling act well". ''

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'' contributor Jonah Bayer said Rickly's "strikingly literary musings were packed with so much imagery and iconography that teens all over the country instantly latched onto these post-hardcore anthems". ''

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'' Gavin Edwards found the band to be "peel ngthe scab off endless varieties of pain" with their lyrics, tackling "heartbreak ...watching a friend die ... andeven guilt over genocide". He noted that when the band's guitarwork becomes "slow and subdued, it's because the band is preparing to unleash a withering assault".

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reviewer Kurt Morris wrote that while Thursday was "generating intelligent music", they do their "best to skirt the line of emo-pop without being unexciting or blasé". He said Rickly's vocals were "smooth yet not immature, strong while not being overbearing". ''

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'' contributor Eric Carr said that "after spending some quality time" with the album, he referred to it "as simply 'shit'. ..Thursday does a few things right, but all in all, this could have been a much better album." Todd Burns of ''

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'' wrote that sections of tracks "exhibit obvious skill and technical proficiency, but are quickly ruined by Rickly's vocals or other elements that intrude on the small moments of interest". He says it was overall "a solid second effort for a band in this genre, but money would be best spent" on other albums.

Commercial performance and legacy

''Full Collapse'' reached number 178 on the US ''Billboard'' 200. It charted at number ten on the ''

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chart and number nine on the

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chart. In the first week of release, ''Full Collapse'' sold 800 copies. As of October 2008, it sold 380,000 copies. In February 2009, Thursday announced that they would perform ''Full Collapse'' in its entirety for a one-off show on the

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tour. However, on the day of the show, the band cancelled. They eventually performed the album in October 2009, while in the midst of promoting their fifth studio album, ''

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''. To celebrate the tenth anniversary of ''Full Collapse'', Thursday performed the album in its entirely throughout a US tour in 2011. In 2018, the band performed a run of two-night shows where they played ''Full Collapse'' on the first night and their third studio album, '' War All the Time'' (2003), on the other, in entirety. In a 2010 interview, Rickly described the album's significance to both the band and its fans: :''Full Collapse'' was a record that changed the course and shape of my life. We began touring for it in basements and

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halls, ..and ended up as a full-time touring band meeting hundreds of thousands of people with whom we formed deep and lasting connections. Time passes and we embrace new music and different goals but, ten years later, ''Full Collapse'' continues to move people and for that we are very grateful. This tour is a celebration of those times and the end of a chapter in the life of Thursday. According to ''

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'', ''Full Collapse'' was "instantly hailed san emo classic" upon release. It has influenced acts such as

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, and

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(specifically their 2003 release '' In Response''). Rickly would describe ''Full Collapse'' as a "turning point record" and strongly favor it over most of the band's other work for both its passion and cohesive feel throughout. It has appeared on various best-of emo album lists, having been named in lists by ''

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'', as well as by journalists Leslie Simon and Trevor Kelley in their book ''Everybody Hurts: An Essential Guide to Emo Culture'' (2007). Similarly, "Understanding in a Car Crash" appeared on a best-of emo songs lists by ''

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''. ''Alternative Press'' ranked "Understanding in a Car Crash" at number 10 on their list of the best 100 singles from the 2000s. The track has been covered by

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for their ''Back to School'' (2013) EP.

Track listing

Track listing per booklet.

Personnel

Personnel per booklet. Thursday *

Geoff Rickly Geoffrey William Rickly (born March 8, 1979) is an American musician, best known as the lead singer and songwriter of rock band Thursday. Rickly is also a member of hardcore punk band United Nations, and the alternative rock group No Devotion w ...

– vocals * Tom Keeley – lead guitar * Steve Pedulla – rhythm guitar * Tim Payne – bass * Tucker Rule – drums Additional musicians * Erin Farley – additional guitar on "Understanding in a Car Crash" * Tim Giles –

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and melotone on "Paris in Flames" * Frank Giokas – additional guitar on "Standing on the Edge of Summer" * Thomas Schlatter – additional vocals on "Autobiography of a Nation" and "Cross Out the Eyes" * Sal Villanueva – additional guitar on "Autobiography of a Nation" and "Wind-Up" * Joe Darone – additional vocals on "Autobiography of a Nation" Production and design * Sal Villanueva – producer * Tim Giles –

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, mixing * Erin Farley – engineer * Codie Brown – assistant engineer * Timo G. Less – mastering *

Mike Chapman Michael Donald Chapman (born 13 April 1947) is an Australian-American record producer and songwriter who was a major force in the British pop music industry in the 1970s. He created a string of hit singles for artists including The Sweet, Suzi ...

– cover photos * Dennis Keeley – center photo * Thursday – design, art direction * Patrick Larson – design, art direction

Charts

References

Citations Sources * * * * *

External links

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