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New York hardcore New York hardcore (also known as NYHC) is both the hardcore punk music created in New York City and the subculture and lifestyle (sociology), lifestyle associated with that music. New York hardcore grew out of the hardcore scene established in Wa ...
band formed in 1987 by
Youth of Today Youth of Today is an American hardcore punk band, initially active from 1985 to 1990 before reforming in 2010. The band played a major role in establishing the "Youth Crew" subculture of hardcore, both espousing and evolving the philosophies o ...
guitarist John "Porcell" Porcelly and former Youth of Today drummer Mike "Judge" Ferraro.


History

Their first release was a 7" EP on Porcell's label
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(which he ran along with Side by Side/
Gorilla Biscuits Gorilla Biscuits are an American hardcore punk band from New York City, New York, United States, formed in 1986. The band currently consists of Anthony "Civ" Civarelli, Walter Schreifels, Arthur Smilios and Luke Abbey, and is signed to Revelatio ...
guitar player Alex Brown) entitled ''
New York Crew New York Crew was a 7-inch EP released by the New York City hardcore band Judge. The record was released on guitarist John Porcelly's record label, Schism Records, in 1988. The record was then later repressed by Revelation Records. At the time o ...
''. The record featured five songs, one of which was a cover of "Warriors" by the British
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band
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. On this recording, the band was merely a two-piece, featuring Porcelly on bass and guitar, and Ferraro on vocals and drums. But with the addition of bass-player
Jimmy Yu Jimmy Yu (born 1968), also known as Guo Gu (果谷 Guǒ Gǔ), is a Chan teacher and a scholar of Buddhism. He was the bassist for the American 1980s hardcore bands Death Before Dishonor (the original) and Judge. After his youthful days in hardco ...
(of Mike's former band Death Before Dishonor, which eventually evolved into Supertouch) and drummer "Lukey" Luke Abbey ( Warzone/
Gorilla Biscuits Gorilla Biscuits are an American hardcore punk band from New York City, New York, United States, formed in 1986. The band currently consists of Anthony "Civ" Civarelli, Walter Schreifels, Arthur Smilios and Luke Abbey, and is signed to Revelatio ...
), they got together a fully functional live line-up. The band received much criticism due to their militant
straight edge Straight edge (sometimes abbreviated sXe or signified by XXX or X) is a subculture of hardcore punk whose adherents refrain from using alcohol, tobacco, and other recreational drugs, in reaction to the excesses of punk subculture. For some, thi ...
lyrics, especially from fanzines like San Francisco's
Maximum Rock'N'Roll ''Maximumrocknroll'', often written as ''Maximum Rocknroll'' and usually abbreviated as ''MRR'', is a not-for-profit monthly zine of punk subculture. Based in San Francisco, ''MRR'' focuses on punk rock and hardcore music, and primarily featu ...
. The militant lyrics were a conscious move on the band's part, as they were sick of seeing bands like
Youth of Today Youth of Today is an American hardcore punk band, initially active from 1985 to 1990 before reforming in 2010. The band played a major role in establishing the "Youth Crew" subculture of hardcore, both espousing and evolving the philosophies o ...
, who in reality had a very positive message, get slagged for being too militant. So they decided to give the nay-sayers exactly what they wanted – the most militant Straight Edge band imaginable. Mike Ferraro has later on admitted that provocation was an important aim for the band. Judge was not just heavy in message, the music had very
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-influenced riffing, but remained close to its
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roots, without going all out metal, such as bands like
Agnostic Front Agnostic Front is an American hardcore punk band from New York City. Founded in 1980, the band is considered an important influence on the New York hardcore scene, as well as a pioneer of the crossover thrash genre. History First era (1980–19 ...
and D.R.I. With a new line-up of
Sammy Siegler Sammy Siegler (born March 21, 1973) is an American rock drummer, notable for his many contributions to the New York hardcore scene. He is currently living in Venice, California with his wife, model Siew Longhorn. Discography With Project X * ...
(Side by Side/Youth of Today/ Project X etc.) on drums and
Matt Pincus Matthew Storrs Pincus is an American music publisher and investor who founded Songs Music Publishing. He was a former bassist of the band Judge. Early life and education Pincus is the son of Lionel Pincus, co-founder and chairman of private ...
on bass, the band proceeded to record their full-length LP ''
Bringin' It Down ''Bringin' It Down'' is an LP released by the New York hardcore band Judge. It was released on Revelation Records in 1989. The original recording of the album was released under the title '' Chung King Can Suck It'' (with two additional tracks ...
'' for
Revelation Records Revelation Records is an independent record label focusing originally and primarily on hardcore punk. The label is known for releases by bands such as Youth of Today, Warzone, Sick of It All, Quicksand, Side By Side, Chain of Strength, Shelte ...
at
Chung King Studios Chung King Studios was a recording studio that operated in New York City under that name from 1986 to 2015. It was founded by producer John King and engineer Steve Ett with financial backing from the Etches brothers, occupying three different locat ...
in New York City. The recording was finished, but the band were so unhappy with the result that they decided to scrap it and re-record it at Normandy Sound in
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, where the
Cro-Mags Cro-Mags are an American hardcore punk band from New York City. The band, which has a strong cult following, has released six studio albums, with the first two considered the most influential. With a Hare Krishna background, they were among th ...
had recorded their '' Best Wishes'' album. Revelation did however put out a limited pressing of the original recording, fittingly titled '' Chung King Can Suck It''. It was given to people who had pre-ordered the record, and with only 110 copies pressed (all on white vinyl), it is one of the most sought-after hardcore records in existence, going for as much as $6,600 on online auction sites such as
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. Eventually, ''Bringin' It Down'' was released in 1989. Judge continued touring up until 1991, and even released another 7" EP, ''There Will Be Quiet'', featuring "The Storm" and "Forget This Time" (the CD-version also contains a cover version of "
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", originally by
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). In May 2013, Judge reunited and played two shows in New York City. In 2014 and 2015, the band continued to play shows in United States as well as in South America and Europe.


Careers after Judge

John Porcelly John "Porcell" Porcelly (born 3 February 1967), also known as Paramananda Das, is an American musician, best known as the guitarist for the 1980s hardcore bands Young Republicans, Violent Children, Youth of Today, and Judge. He also sang in Pr ...
went on to tour and record with
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hardcore band
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(featuring
Ray Cappo Ray Cappo, also known as Raghunath Das, is an American punk rock musician, best known as the vocalist for the bands Youth of Today and Shelter, and founder of the independent record label Equal Vision. Originally from Connecticut, Cappo playe ...
of
Youth of Today Youth of Today is an American hardcore punk band, initially active from 1985 to 1990 before reforming in 2010. The band played a major role in establishing the "Youth Crew" subculture of hardcore, both espousing and evolving the philosophies o ...
, as well as a revolving line-up of more and less well-known hardcore musicians, including
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of
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and
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, and Vic DiCara of Beyond, Inside Out, and
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). Porcelly later started the bands Never Surrender and Last of the Famous, and ran a record label called Fight Fire with Fire and the website TrueTillDeath.com, but all these projects seem to be either scrapped or inactive. He played with the reunited
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in 2005–06, and a book chronicling all issues of his fanzine
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was also released in late 2005. Mike Ferraro (musician) (not to be confused with television and filmmaker
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) formed the band Mike Judge & Old Smoke with Judge roadie Todd Schwartz, a band playing
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-inspired acoustic as well as guitar driven music. They released a 12" "Sights on
Revelation Records Revelation Records is an independent record label focusing originally and primarily on hardcore punk. The label is known for releases by bands such as Youth of Today, Warzone, Sick of It All, Quicksand, Side By Side, Chain of Strength, Shelte ...
in 1993. In his free time, Ferraro now raises chickens on a family farm in West Virginia, despite the band's once militant Straight Edge message.
Sammy Siegler Sammy Siegler (born March 21, 1973) is an American rock drummer, notable for his many contributions to the New York hardcore scene. He is currently living in Venice, California with his wife, model Siew Longhorn. Discography With Project X * ...
played in several late 1980s/early 1990s hardcore bands, either regularly or as a replacement. In the mid-late 1990s he recorded and toured with the band CIV, featuring Anthony Civarelli and Arthur Smilios of
Gorilla Biscuits Gorilla Biscuits are an American hardcore punk band from New York City, New York, United States, formed in 1986. The band currently consists of Anthony "Civ" Civarelli, Walter Schreifels, Arthur Smilios and Luke Abbey, and is signed to Revelatio ...
. He has also appeared in
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, and major label rock band
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, featuring
Walter Schreifels Walter Schreifels (born March 10, 1969) is an American rock musician and producer from New York City. Career In the late 1980s, he played in many New York hardcore bands, most notably Youth of Today and Gorilla Biscuits, where he was also th ...
(also of
Gorilla Biscuits Gorilla Biscuits are an American hardcore punk band from New York City, New York, United States, formed in 1986. The band currently consists of Anthony "Civ" Civarelli, Walter Schreifels, Arthur Smilios and Luke Abbey, and is signed to Revelatio ...
, as well as
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and several other bands) He recorded Glassjaw first full-length. In 2005 he joined
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as temporary replacement for drummer John Otto.
Matt Pincus Matthew Storrs Pincus is an American music publisher and investor who founded Songs Music Publishing. He was a former bassist of the band Judge. Early life and education Pincus is the son of Lionel Pincus, co-founder and chairman of private ...
is the Founder and former CEO of
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which, until its sale in 2017, was the leading contemporary independent music publisher in the United States. SONGS clients included
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,
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,
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,
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, and many other songwriters in all genres of music. In 2017, SONGS was acquired by Kobalt Music Publishing.
Jimmy Yu Jimmy Yu (born 1968), also known as Guo Gu (果谷 Guǒ Gǔ), is a Chan teacher and a scholar of Buddhism. He was the bassist for the American 1980s hardcore bands Death Before Dishonor (the original) and Judge. After his youthful days in hardco ...
became a Chan/Zen Buddhist monk in 1991 under the name Guogu, and now teaches
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and meditation under the direction of Chan/Zen Maste
Sheng Yen
Yu is currently an Assistant Professor of Religion at Florida State University. Yu received his Ph.D. from Princeton University's Department of Religion in 2008. Yu teaches courses in East Asian religious traditions, specializing in Chinese and Japanese Buddhism and late imperial Chinese cultural history. His research interests include the cultural history of the body, Buddhist monasticism, Chan/Zen Buddhism, and popular religions within the broader context of fifteenth to seventeenth centuries China. Here is a 2008 Double Cross Hardcore fanzin
interview
with Jimmy Yu in which he talks about growing up in the hardcore scene.


Members

;Current *Mike Ferraro – vocals (1987–1991, 2013–present), drums (1987) * John Porcell – guitar 1987–1991, 2013–present, bass (1987) *
Sammy Siegler Sammy Siegler (born March 21, 1973) is an American rock drummer, notable for his many contributions to the New York hardcore scene. He is currently living in Venice, California with his wife, model Siew Longhorn. Discography With Project X * ...
– drums (1989–1991, 2013–present) *Charlie Garriga – guitar (2013–present) *
Matt Pincus Matthew Storrs Pincus is an American music publisher and investor who founded Songs Music Publishing. He was a former bassist of the band Judge. Early life and education Pincus is the son of Lionel Pincus, co-founder and chairman of private ...
– bass (1989–1991, 2013–present) ;Former *Luke Abbey – drums (1988–1989) *Jimmy Yu – bass (1988–1989) *Lars Weiss – guitar (1990–1991) *Ryan Hoffman – guitar (1991)


Discography


Official releases

* ''
New York Crew New York Crew was a 7-inch EP released by the New York City hardcore band Judge. The record was released on guitarist John Porcelly's record label, Schism Records, in 1988. The record was then later repressed by Revelation Records. At the time o ...
'' 7" EP ( Schism Records (SKIZ-2) (1988) /
Revelation Records Revelation Records is an independent record label focusing originally and primarily on hardcore punk. The label is known for releases by bands such as Youth of Today, Warzone, Sick of It All, Quicksand, Side By Side, Chain of Strength, Shelte ...
(REV 14)) (1989) ** 3000 copies in 3 pressings on
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. ** Later re-pressed on Revelation, with a picture label of
Sammy Siegler Sammy Siegler (born March 21, 1973) is an American rock drummer, notable for his many contributions to the New York hardcore scene. He is currently living in Venice, California with his wife, model Siew Longhorn. Discography With Project X * ...
ripping off a "have your id's ready" sign in front of
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. The 1st press was 4000 black and 1000 blue vinyl. It has later been repressed in the thousands. * '' Chung King Can Suck It'' LP (
Revelation Records Revelation Records is an independent record label focusing originally and primarily on hardcore punk. The label is known for releases by bands such as Youth of Today, Warzone, Sick of It All, Quicksand, Side By Side, Chain of Strength, Shelte ...
(REV −1)) ** One-time press of 110 on white vinyl. * ''
Bringin' It Down ''Bringin' It Down'' is an LP released by the New York hardcore band Judge. It was released on Revelation Records in 1989. The original recording of the album was released under the title '' Chung King Can Suck It'' (with two additional tracks ...
'' LP (
Revelation Records Revelation Records is an independent record label focusing originally and primarily on hardcore punk. The label is known for releases by bands such as Youth of Today, Warzone, Sick of It All, Quicksand, Side By Side, Chain of Strength, Shelte ...
(REV 15)) (1989) ** 1st press: 5458 black vinyl, 712 green vinyl, purple labels. ** 2nd press: black vinyl, red labels. ** 3rd press (and beyond): black vinyl, maroon labels. ** Final press (2001): 333 orange vinyl. * ''There Will Be Quiet...'' 7" EP (
Revelation Records Revelation Records is an independent record label focusing originally and primarily on hardcore punk. The label is known for releases by bands such as Youth of Today, Warzone, Sick of It All, Quicksand, Side By Side, Chain of Strength, Shelte ...
(REV 20)) (1990) ** 4000 black vinyl, 1000 gold vinyl. * ''What It Meant: The Complete Discography'' CD/2xLP (
Revelation Records Revelation Records is an independent record label focusing originally and primarily on hardcore punk. The label is known for releases by bands such as Youth of Today, Warzone, Sick of It All, Quicksand, Side By Side, Chain of Strength, Shelte ...
(REV 122) ** Contains all of Judge's recorded output, including '' Chung King Can Suck It'' for the first time on an official, non-limited Revelation release.


Bootlegs

* ''Revelation Can Suck It'' 10" (Revoltation Records) (1992) ** Contains the recording that appears on the limited '''Chung King Can Suck It''' LP, but on a 10" format. * ''No Apologies: The Chung King Sessions'' LP (Lost & Found Records (LF033)) (1992) ** Another bootleg of the ''Chung King...'' LP. Also has 4 additional bonus tracks. * ''Vivo En WNYU'' 7" ** Contains part of the band's 1988 appearance on the 'Crucial Chaos' radio-show on New York City's WNYU radio station. ** 500 black vinyl, 50 red vinyl, xeroxed sleeve.


References

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