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William Newman Ramsey (27 September 1943 – 7 July 2020) was an English professional
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footballer who played as a or in the 1960s and 1970s, and coached in the 1970s. He played at representative level for
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, and Commonwealth XIII, and at club level for
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,
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,
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and
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during the era of contested
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s, and coached at club level for
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. During his Leeds career Ramsey appeared in 17 major Finals, including five at
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, London, scored a rare
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in the 1969
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Final, toured twice in 1966 and 1974, and won seven winners medals with Leeds.


Background

Ramsey's was born in Leeds.


Playing career


Hunslet

Ramsey played left- in
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's 16–20 defeat by
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in the 1965 Challenge Cup Final at
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, London, on Saturday 8 May 1965, in front of a crowd of 89,016. Ramsey represented Commonwealth XIII in 1965 against
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at Crystal Palace National Recreation Centre, London on Wednesday 18 August 1965, Ramsey won
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s for
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while at Hunslet in 1965 against New Zealand (2 matches), in 1966 against France, Australia (2 matches), and New Zealand (2 matches), Ramsey played left- in Hunslet's 8–17 defeat by
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in the 1965 Yorkshire Cup Final
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on Saturday 16 October 1965.


Leeds

Ramsey was transferred from Hunslet to Leeds in 1967 for £10,000, he made his début, and scored a
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for Leeds against
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on Friday 8 December 1967.


International honours

Bill Ramsey won
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while at Leeds in 1974 against New Zealand.


Championship final appearances

Bill Ramsey played, and scored a
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in Leeds' 16–14 victory over
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in the
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Final during the 1968–69 season at
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on Saturday 24 May 1969. During Bill Ramsey's time at Leeds there was a 9–5 victory over St. Helens in the Championship Final during the 1971–72 season.


County League appearances

Bill Ramsey played in Leeds' victories in the Yorkshire League during the 1967–68 season, 1968–69 season and 1969–70 season.


Challenge Cup Final appearances

Bill Ramsey played left- in Leeds' 11–10 victory over
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in the 1968 Challenge Cup Finale (the "Watersplash" final) at Wembley Stadium] on Saturday 11 May 1968, played in the 7–24 defeat by Leigh Centurions, Leigh in the 1971 Challenge Cup at Wembley Stadium on Saturday 15 May 1971, in front of a crowd of 85,514, and played right- in the 13–16 defeat by St. Helens in the
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Final at Wembley on Saturday 13 May 1972, in front of a crowd of 89,495.


County Cup Final appearances

Bill Ramsey played left- (replaced by interchange/ substitute
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) in Leeds' 22–11 victory over Castleford in the
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Final at Belle Vue,
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on Saturday 19 October 1968, played left- and scored a try in the 23–7 victory over
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in the 1970 Yorkshire Cup Final at
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,
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on Saturday 21 November 1970, played right- in the 36–9 victory over
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in the 1972 Yorkshire Cup Final at Odsal on Saturday 7 October 1972, and was an interchange/ substitute in the 7–2 victory over
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in the 1973 Yorkshire Cup Final at Headingley on Saturday 20 October 1973.


BBC2 Floodlit Trophy Final appearances

Bill Ramsey played right- in Leeds' 9–5 victory over St. Helens in the 1970 BBC2 Floodlit Trophy Final at Headingley on Tuesday 15 December 1970.


Bradford Northern

Ramsey signed for Bradford Northern on 27 January 1974, he stayed at the club until 8 September that year.


Hull

Ramsey spent the
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with
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Players No.6 Trophy Final appearances

Ramsey played left- in Hull's 13–19 defeat by
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in the 1975–76 Player's No.6 Trophy Final at Headingley on Saturday 24 January 1976.


Widnes

Ramsey played left- in Widnes' 13–16 defeat by Leeds in the 1977 Challenge Cup Final at Wembley on Saturday 7 May 1977.


County Cup Final appearances

Ramsey played left- in Widnes' 16–11 victory over
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in the 1976 Lancashire Cup Final at
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on Saturday 30 October 1976.


Players No.6 Trophy Final appearances

Ramsey played left- in Widnes' 4–9 defeat by
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in the 1977–78 Player's No.6 Trophy Final at
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, St. Helens on Saturday 28 January 1978.


Coaching career

After retiring from playing Ramsey returned to Hunslet as coach in 1978 and coached the team to promotion to the First Division in 1979.


Personal life

Ramsey married Marlene Chilton and they had two sons.


References


External links

*(archived by web.archive.org
On This Day – 8 DecemberStatistics at rugby.widnes.tvRugby Cup Final 1968
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