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Joseph Henry Baker (17 August 1940 – 6 October 2003) was an England international
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who played at club level for
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,
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,
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,
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,
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and
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. At the age of 26 he achieved the feat of having scored 100 top division goals in both Scotland and England. Born to a Scottish mother and English father in
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, Baker spent the first six weeks of his life in England and was then raised in Scotland until he moved to Italy aged 20. Despite self-identifying as Scottish, rules at the time meant his only international football eligibility was for his birth nation. His full England debut in 1959 made him the first professional footballer to represent England while playing for a club outside the
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, and the first to have never played for an English club before his full England debut.


Early years

Joe Baker's mother Elizabeth was Scottish. While sources conflict as to whether his father George, a seaman, was Scottish or
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, an interview in "The Topical Times Football Book 1959", quotes Baker stating of he and his elder brother
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, "Both our parents were Scots". When living in New York, Gerry was born in 1938. After the outbreak of World War Two, the family moved to
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when George volunteered for the Merchant Marines. The family then evacuated from "badly bombed Liverpool" to
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in Scotland, just six weeks after Joe's birth. George did not survive the war, dying from injuries received in the sinking of his boat. The Baker brothers spent the rest of their childhood living in Lanarkshire. They attended Park Street Junior School then St Joseph's Secondary School, both in
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. He then joined Motherwell Boys' Guild (a juvenile club), to play on Saturday afternoons as well as for the school in the mornings. He gained two Scottish Schools international caps (in matches against England and Wales). Away from football, he started en engineering apprenticeship.


Club career


Hibernian

Shortly after leaving school, Baker became a
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-level player with Coltness United. While there he was chosen for select sides of both the Lanarkshire and East of Scotland Junior Associations. He spent a month on trial with Chelsea as a youngster, but was not signed. He signed professional terms with
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, and was then farmed out to another Junior team, Armadale Thistle. In his first season with Hibs, 17-year-old Baker scored all four in a 4–3 victory over city rivals Hearts in the 1958 Scottish Cup quarter-final. He played in Hibs'
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1–0 loss to Clyde in front of over 95,000 fans. He also scored nine goals in a
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. Baker was Hibs' top goalscorer for four consecutive seasons, scoring a club record 42 goals in 33 league games during the 1959–60 season. In all he scored 102 goals in just 117 league games, and 159 goals in all competitions for the
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club. In 1961 Baker was transferred after the Hibs board refused to give him a £5 increase from his existing wage of £12 a week. Gerry Baker signed for Hibernian from
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in November 1961, six months after Joe had left
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.


Torino

On 31 May 1961, Baker signed in
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for
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for £75,000. Another forward raised in Scotland,
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, joined Torino from
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in the same close-season. Baker and Law both made their senior competitive Torino debut in a 2–0
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defeat at
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on 27 August 1961. Their senior competitive home debut was in Serie A against
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a week later on 3 September. In the 11th minute, Law's equaliser made him the first Scot to score in Serie A. Baker also scored his first goals in Italian football in that game; His 25th and 36th minute goals had Torino 3-1 up at half-time, but Vicenza fought back to draw 3-3. Baker's next goal was on 1 October, the only goal of the game to win the
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against
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. Three further goals meant by the end of November he had played in 12 of Torino's 14 Serie A games, in which he scored six goals. He played in seven more Serie A games (scoring once, in the 2-1 defeat at Bologna on 29 January 1962). Baker's last Serie A game was the 3-1 home defeat to Juventus on 4 February 1962. As a result of a 4am car crash in which Baker drove the wrong away around a roundabout, he then needed life-saving surgery and spent over a month on a drip feed. Law had no serious injuries from the crash. Baker's last Torino game was his and Law's only
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experience. They lost 2–0 at home in the round of 16 versus Napoli on 25 April. Baker and Law disliked the intrusive Italian press, meaning they spent most of their time in their Turin apartment. Both players left Italy after one season.


Arsenal

Baker recovered from his injuries and returned to the UK in July 1962, joining Billy Wright's
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for a club record fee of £70,000. He made his debut against
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on 18 August 1962, and in all spent four seasons with the ''Gunners''. For three out of those four seasons ( 1962–63, 1964–65 and 1965–66) he was the club's top scorer; in total he scored 100 goals in 156 games in all competitions, making him one of the club's most prolific goalscorers of all time. His pace and acceleration made him a highly effective and dynamic attacker, and he was equally adept with his feet and his head, despite his lack of height. With
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he formed one of Arsenal's most prolific striking partnerships, but the defence could not match the quality of the team's attack, which meant they were unable to finish above 7th in the league during his time at the club.


Nottingham Forest

Midway through the 1965–66 season, Baker transferred to
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for £65,000. His Forest debut was a 1–0 league home win over Burnley on 8 March 1966. Four days later Baker opened his Forest goalscoring account with two in a 3–3 draw at
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. Baker's seventh league goal for Forest was on 27 August 1966 in a 2–1 win at
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; added to his 93 Arsenal top flight goals at Arsenal and 102 top tier strikes for Hibs, he reached 100 top division goals in both Scotland and England aged 26 years and 10 days. Baker had a successful 1966–67 season at Forest as the club finished runners-up to the club that would win the following season's
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's
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(whose team included Baker's ex Torino teammate, Denis Law). Baker was injured during the season in the 3–2 victory over Everton in the FA Cup 6th round and missed the rest of the fixtures. Prior to his injury, Forest had lost only once in 28 games; after it they only won three of their six remaining league games and lost in the FA Cup semi-final to
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. In three years at Forest, Baker scored 41 goals in 118 league games.


Sunderland, return to Hibs and Raith Rovers

Baker then moved to
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for a fee of £30,000, and spent the following two seasons playing for the ''Black Cats''. He returned to Hibernian for a second time in 1971 and scored 17 goals in 34 appearances. This gave him a final Hibs tally of 158 goals from 193 starts. He moved to
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in 1972 and retired in 1974. He ended his professional career with 301 league goals in 507 games.


International career

Baker was selected twice by the Scottish Schools team. Despite Scottish parentage, spending all but the first six weeks of the first 20 years of his life living in Scotland and self-identifying as Scottish, rules at the time meant his birthplace made him only eligible to play international football only for
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; "I was the first Scottish League player to play for England and it was a hard thing to take because I was a Scot, as far as I was concerned."Joe Baker: The Reluctant Englishman
By Far The Greatest Team, 13 August 2017
His brother Gerry was similarly only eligible to represent his birth nation (the United States, for whom he played seven times). He made his England debut against
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in November 1959, which made him the first professional player to be capped for England while playing for a club outside the
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. It also meant that he was the first player to play for England without having ever played for an English club (
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was the next player to do this, in 2001). Baker won eight caps for the senior England side, five while he was playing for Hibs and three while with
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. These later caps were won when he earned a brief recall to the England side in 1965. Despite scoring in a 2–0 win over
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, Baker did not make the squad for the
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.


Managerial career and later life

Baker later became
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manager on two occasions, but never pursued a full coaching career, instead running a
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and working for Hibernian's hospitality service. He died at the age of 63, after suffering a heart attack during a charity golf tournament, dying in
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soon after.


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Article on Joe Baker
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