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"Talkin' Loud and Sayin' Nothing" is a
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song written by
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and
Bobby Byrd Bobby Howard Byrd (August 15, 1934 – September 12, 2007) was an American rhythm and blues, soul and funk singer, songwriter, musician, record producer, bandleader and talent scout, who played an integral and important part in the development ...
. Recorded in 1970 by Brown and the original J.B.'s with Byrd on
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and updated with a new melody, it was twice released as a two-part
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in 1972. It also appeared on the album '' There It Is''.


Background

Critic
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called it "the loosest and most infectious of Brown's many socially conscious jams." It is in this song we learn that Brown originally envisioned rapping as
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. The original version was more rock-oriented and featured on The Singles Vol Six, 1969-1970. According to Brown, "Talkin' Loud and Sayin' Nothing" was "aimed at the politicians who were running their mouths but had no knowledge of what life was like for a lot of people in
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as well as "some of the cats on their soapboxes... who were telling the people one thing while manipulating their emotions for personal gain." Biographer RJ Smith described it as "an open criticism of self-styled arbiters of racial justice" who attacked Brown for his often-heterodox political stances. In the middle of the song Brown orders all the band members to temporarily stop playing while he and Byrd maintain the rhythm using their voices alone - an early example of a dance music
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.


Personnel

* James Brown - lead vocal ''with The J.B.'s:'' * Clayton "Chicken" Gunnells - trumpet * Darryl "Hassan" Jamison - trumpet * Robert McCollough - tenor saxophone * St. Clair Pinckney - baritone saxophone * Bobby Byrd - organ, vocal *
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- guitar *
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- bass *
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- drums * Johnny Griggs - congas


Chart positions

"Talkin' Loud and Saying Nothing"reached number one on the U.S.
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chart and number twenty-seven on the ''Billboard'' Hot 100 during the spring of that year.White, Cliff (1991). "Discography". In ''Star Time'' (pp. 54–59) D booklet New York: PolyGram Records.


Withdrawn version

Brown recorded a blues-rock oriented version of the song on February 26, 1970 at the
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studios in
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. His backup band on this version consisted of his arranger David Matthews on
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, Kenny Poole on fuzz guitar, Michael Moore (who later played on Brown's 1972 hit "
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") on bass, and Jimmy Madison on drums. This group would record one album under the name The Grodeck Whipperjenny for Brown's
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label, and back Brown on his final King album in 1971, '' Sho' Is Funky Down Here''. This version, split in two parts, was scheduled for release on King 45-P-6359, and several copies were pressed on both white and black labels, but the record was withdrawn from release before it could be distributed. (The J.B.'s-backed version was to have been concurrently released as 45-S-6359, but no copies of this variation are known to exist.) The full version (5:07) of this blues-rock rendition was issued in 2000 on the compilation CD ''James Brown's Funky People: Volume 3''.


Other versions

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ed version of "Talkin' Loud and Sayin' Nothing" was included on the 1986 James Brown
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''. A longer version of the song (9:28) is included in the '' Star Time''
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. The complete version of the song (14:42) was released in 1996 on the compilation CD '' Funk Power 1970: A Brand New Thang''.
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recorded a
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in 1991 for their ''
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'' EP.


See also

* List of number-one R&B singles of 1972 (U.S.)


References


External links


AllMusic review
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