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"Mothers Talk" is a 1984 song by the British band
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. Written by
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and
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and sung by Orzabal, it was the band's seventh single release (the first to be taken from their second album ''
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'' (1985) and fifth
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chart hit. The song was released six months in advance of the album, and enjoyed moderate success internationally. Orzabal notes that while "Mothers Talk" helped move the band in a new creative direction, he does not like the track. Producer
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considers it important to the band's development, although he and engineer Dave Bascombe agree that the song is not one of Orzabal's best.


Background

"Mothers Talk" was written in 1983 and was first publicly performed during the band's late 1983 tour. Orzabal describes it as an unsuccessful attempt to mimic the sound of
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. In early 1984, the band went into the studio to record the song as their next single, though the recording sessions with their new producer Jeremy Green did not work out as planned and the recording was scrapped. The band's previous producer, Chris Hughes, was then brought back into the fold and the song was re-recorded and finally released as a single in August 1984. Hughes stayed on with the band to record their second album, ''Songs from the Big Chair''. Along with its B-side, "Empire Building", "Mothers Talk" was one of the first Tears for Fears songs to demonstrate a creative use of sampling. The
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at the beginning of the song were culled from a
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record, while the drum sample around which "Empire Building" is built was lifted from the
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song "Today I Died Again". This was the second Tears for Fears single for which
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would use the
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and coloured vinyl gimmicks as a promotional tool, as well as the first one to feature multiple 12" releases offering different remixes of the track. Limited quantities of the 7" single also came with a free Tears For Fears window sticker of the band's new logo.


Meaning


US release

While America saw "
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" as the first single release from the ''Songs from the Big Chair'' LP, "Mothers Talk" was eventually released there as the fourth and final single from the album in April 1986, peaking at no. 27 on the ''Billboard'' Hot 100. Although labeled as a "remix", this version of the song is actually a complete re-recording, done by the band after their ''Big Chair'' tour wrapped up. It was mixed by the award-winning producer
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, who would go on to mix the band's
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with them. In addition to a different picture sleeve, the single featured the band's
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of Robert Wyatt's "Sea Song" as the B-side (this had been released as the B-side to the single "I Believe" in other countries in 1985). This version was also released in
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and
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at the same time. ''
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'' said that the single "features classic TFF synth moorings but a much grittier overall approach."


Music videos

Three separate promotional clips were filmed for the song in total. The original version, directed by photographer Laurie Lewis, was a performance clip set in a blue toned room and interspersed with shots of a young girl being studied by scientists. The band disliked this version and quickly disowned it, although it had already aired on various British television shows by this point. A replacement video (directed by
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) was then filmed on a shoestring budget, featuring the duo in a rural location (some of which was filmed in Curt Smith's back garden) and interspersed with news and sports footage from a TV set. Both clips were released to UK and European markets in mid-1984. The third and final video, again directed by Nigel Dick, was made for the "US Remix" of the song in early 1986 and portrayed a family preparing a bomb shelter for
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, in keeping with the theme of
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' graphic novel '' When the Wind Blows''. An extended mix of the song, featuring an extra verse at the beginning, was exclusive to this video until it was issued as a bonus track on the 2015 deluxe reissue of ''Songs from the Big Chair''.


Track listings

;7": Mercury / IDEA7 (
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) / 7PP-155 (
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) # "Mothers Talk" (3:53) # "Empire Building" (2:49) ;7": Mercury / 884 638-7 (United States, Australia, Europe) / SOV 2366 (
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) / 7PP-200 (Japan) # "Mothers Talk (US Remix)" (4:14) # "Sea Song" (3:52) ;12": Mercury / IDEA712 (United Kingdom) / 818 838-1 (Europe) # "Mothers Talk (Extended Version)" (6:15) # "Empire Building" (2:49) ;12": Mercury / IDEAR712 (United Kingdom) / 880 248-1 (Australia) / 880 258-1 (Europe) # "Mothers Talk (Beat of the Drum Mix)" (8:54) # "Empire Building" (2:49) ;12": Vertigo / TFF1 (Canada) # "Mothers Talk (Short Version)" (3:53) # "The Way You Are (Extended Version)" (7:33) # "Mothers Talk (Beat of the Drum Mix)" (8:54) # "The Marauders" (4:14) # "Mothers Talk" (Extended Version) (6:15) CS: Vertigo / TFF 4 1 (Canada) # "Mothers Talk (Beat of the Drum Mix)" (8:54) # "The Marauders" (4:14) # "Mothers Talk (Extended Version)" (6:15) # "Mothers Talk" (3:53) # "The Way You Are (Extended Version)" (7:33) ;12": Mercury / 884 638-1 (United States, Europe) # "Mothers Talk (Beat of the Drum Mix)" (8:54) # "Mothers Talk (Extended Version)" (6:15) # "Mothers Talk (US Remix)" (4:14) ;12": Vertigo / SOVX 2366 (Canada) # "Mothers Talk (Beat of the Drum Mix)" (8:54) # "Mothers Talk (US Remix)" (4:14) # "Sea Song" (3:52)


Personnel

Tears for Fears *
Roland Orzabal Roland Orzabal (born Roland Jaime Orzabal de la Quintana; 22 August 1961) is a British musician, singer-songwriter, record producer, and author. He is best known as a co-founder of Tears for Fears, of which he is the main songwriter and joint v ...
– lead and background vocals, guitar, keyboard *
Curt Smith Curt Smith (born 24 June 1961) is a British singer, songwriter, musician, record producer, and co-founding member of the pop rock band Tears for Fears along with childhood friend Roland Orzabal. Smith plays bass guitar, has co-written several ...
– bass guitar, background vocals *
Ian Stanley Ian Christopher Stanley (born 28 February 1957) is a British musician, songwriter and record producer. He was previously a member of the English band Tears for Fears for most of the 1980s, and played a key role in the making of their multi-plat ...
– keyboards *
Manny Elias Manny Elias (born 21 February 1953) is an Indian drummer and record producer of British descent. He is notable for being the original drummer with Tears for Fears during the 1980s. Originally a member of the rock band Interview from Bathford, ...
– drums Additional Personnel *
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, Ruby James,
Nicky Holland Nicky Holland (born 20 February 1959) is an English musician and singer-songwriter, notable for being a previous backing pianist/keyboardist, vocalist and co-songwriter for the band Tears for Fears during the 1980s. Early life Nicky Holland ...
,
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, Bernita Turner (US remix) – background vocals *
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– saxophone (US remix)


Chart positions


References

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