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"Miss Lucy had a baby...", also known by various other names, is an American schoolyard rhyme. Originally used as a jump-rope chant, it is now more often sung alone or as part of a
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. It has many variations, possibly originating from it, or from its predecessors.Henninger, Jessie.
Miss Susie Had a Steamboat: I. Structure
at ''The Raveled Sleeve''. 29 November 2008. Accessed 16 January 2014.
Henninger, Jessie.
Miss Susie Had a Steamboat: V. Versions of the Rhyme Used in This Essay
at ''The Raveled Sleeve''. 29 November 2008. Accessed 12 January 2014.
The song is often combined or confused with the similar but cruder " Miss Susie had a steamboat", which uses the same tune and was also used as a jump-rope game.


Structure

As in "Miss Susie", the rhyme is organized by its meter, an
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, in
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.
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allows for set number of accents regardless of the number of syllables in the verse. It is a common form in English folk verse, especially in
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s. The song shares much of the same melody as the 1937 "
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" used by
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History

The history of the
Miss Susie "Miss Susie had a steamboat", also known as "Hello Operator",Mayfield, Josh. at ''Inky's Linkies''. 3 Apr 2004. Accessed 13 Jan 2014. "Miss Suzy", "Miss Lucy", and many other names, is the name of an American schoolyar ...
similar rhyme has been studied, tracing it back to the 1950s, in Josepha Sherman's article published by the
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. However, several other books and articles show similar versions used as far back as the end of the 19th century.Cray, Ed. ''The Erotic Muse: American Bawdy Songs'' 2nd ed.
p. 173 ff.
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), 1999. Accessed 13 January 2014.
"Miss Lucy" probably developed from verses of much older (and cruder) songs, although the opposite may also be true, most commonly known as " Bang Bang Rosie" in Britain, "Bang Away Lulu" in
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.Logsdon, Guy. ''The Whorehouse Bells Are Ringing and Other Songs Cowboys Sing''
pp. 154 ff.
1995 reprint of UIP (
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), 1989. Accessed 13 January 2014. (NB: Logsdon's versions are set to the separate tune of the bluegrass traditional "
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These songs were sometimes political, usually openly crude, and occasionally infanticidal. In those songs, the baby, that was dropped in the
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bathtub, was referencing an enormously popular mascot of
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, introduced in the United States in 1902 and in Britain a few years later. Following his declining popularity, the baby is now usually encountered as Tiny Tim, once famous as a Depression-era
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and still well known as a character in
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''. The verse was first recorded as a joke in the 1920s and as the modern children's song in New York in 1938. Although the song derives from lyrics about an unwed whore, few children consider that Miss Lucy might be unmarried; instead, the concern of the song has shifted to the appearance of new siblings. The opening lines now often change to "My mother had a baby..." or "I had a little brother..." The variants including a woman with an
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purse urging the baby's mother to vote have been seen as a reference to
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, an American
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p. 78
Chicago Review Press (Chicago), 2012. Accessed 13 January 2014.
It was later attributed to a social worker which was their typical dress code in the 1950s A version of the song appeared in
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'', about a woman overcoming a childhood trauma. Although the ending seems closed, some argue the song serves to
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establish that nothing ever was wrong with the title character. It also appears in
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's song "Alligator Purse" from her 1996 album '' Right in the Middle of It''. In the 1990s the singer Lucy Peach popularized a version of the song with the words "I had a little turtle, its name was Tiny Tim". Following that, there have been versions of "Miss Suzy had a turtle, she called it Tiny Tim", and an
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was named Tiny Tim at the
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. The Australian children's music group ''
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'' had a Turtle.


The nicknames 'Miss Lucy' and 'Tiny Tim'

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", introduced in 1843, which has the same
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and rhythmic structure of a repeated
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, and a very similar tune. The song was popular at
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s. * 'Miss Lucy Neal' was a popular African-American song published in 1854. * 'Miss Luce Negro' - was the nickname of a brothel owner hypothesized to be the Dark Lady in several of William Shakespeare's writings. A version of the song has been "Miss Lucy had a steamboat". A famous steamboat disaster tied to the name Lucy occurred in 1844, when the Lucy Walker steamboat, a ship named after a race-horse owned by a
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native American and run by a team of his
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slaves, blew up. In Western Africa, the name "Miss Lucy" is the nickname of an endangered species of fish Chrysoblephus gibbiceps. The nickname 'Tiny Tim' has been used in the context of art and literature; * Tiny Tim is the nickname of a fictional character Timothy Cratchit in 'A Christmas Carol' by
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from 1843. * Herbert Khauri, the American singer and
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player began using the stage name ''Tiny Tim'' in 1962.


Lyrics

Several versions exist, varying across time and regionally: America
(early version)
:  :Miss Susie had a baby :His name was Tiny Tim :She put him in the bathtub :To see if he could swim. :He drank up all the water. :He ate up all the soap. :He tried to eat the bathtub :But it wouldn't go down his throat. :Miss Susie called the doctor. :The doctor called the nurse. :The nurse called the lady :With the alligator purse. :Out ran the doctor. :Out ran the nurse. :Out ran the lady :With the alligator purse.* :And now Tiny Tim :Is home sick in bed, :With soap in his throat :And bubbles in his head.
*(Also: "With a baby in her purse.") Britain
(1970s)
:  :The Johnsons had a baby :They called him Tiny Tim, Tim, Tim :They put him in a bathtub :To see if he could swim, swim, swim :He drank up all the water :He ate a bar of soap, soap, soap :"Mummy, mummy, I feel ill :"Send for the doctor down the hill" :In came the doctor :In came the nurse :In came the lady :With the alligator purse :"Doctor, doctor, will I die?" :"Yes, my son, but do not cry. :"Close your eyes and :"Count to ten." :1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5 :6 - 7 - 8 - 9 - 10 :Out went the doctor :Out went the nurse :Out went the lady :With the alligator purse :  :  :  :  :Miss Lucy had a baby, :she called him Tiny Tim! :She put him in the bathtub :to see if he could swim. :He drank up all the water, :he ate up all the soap. :He tried to eat the bathtub :but it wouldn't go down his throat. :Miss Lucy called the doctor, :Miss Lucyor: ''the doctor'' called the nurse. :Miss Lucyor: ''The nurse'' called the lady :with the alligator purse. :In cameor: ''walked'' the doctor, :in came the nurse. :In came the lady :with the alligator purse. :'Mumps' - said the doctor. :'Measles'- said the nurse. :'Nothing' - said the lady :with the alligator purse. : or :'Cough'- said the doctor. :'Cold' - said the nurse. :'Pizza' - said the lady :with the alligator purse. :Miss Lucy hit the doctor :Miss Lucy slapped the nurse :Miss Lucy paid the lady :with the alligator purse :Out went the water. :Out went the soap, :Out went the bathtub,or: ''bubbles'' :that wouldn't go down his throat. :Out went the doctor, :Out went the nurse. :Out went the lady :with the alligator purse.


See also

* " Miss Susie had a steamboat..." * "
Bang Bang Lulu "Bang Bang Lulu" is a traditional American song with many variations. It derives from older songs most commonly known as "Bang Bang Rosie" in Ireland, "Bang Away Lulu" in Appalachia,Cray, Ed. ''The Erotic Muse: American Bawdy Songs'' 2nd&nbs ...
..." * "
Miss Lucy Long "Miss Lucy Long", also known as "Lucy Long" as well as by other variants, is an American song that was popularized in the blackface minstrel show. After its introduction to the stage by the Virginia Minstrels in 1843, "Miss Lucy Long" was adopt ...
" * See
Tiny Tim (disambiguation) Tiny Tim may refer to: People * Tiny Tim (musician) (1932–1996), American musician best known for his cover of "Tiptoe Through the Tulips" in 1968 * Tiny Tim, nickname for Australian football (soccer) player Tim Cahill (born 1979) Arts, enterta ...
for several real and fictional people, institutions and projects called Tiny Tim after this song.


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her daughter attempting
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- first part shows the clean Miss Lucy, and then moves to the profanity versions.
teaching guitar chords with Miss Lucy
(first "nice" then "naughty" versions)
a band playing Miss Lucy
for deaf children
I had a little turtle
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