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supergroup whose roots go back to at least 2005. Due to the nature of the band, it is unclear who exactly is a member of United Nations at any given time. Early promotional images of the band depicted four people wearing Ronald Reagan masks, and all original contributors were contractually obligated to remain anonymous. The only member not under contract at the time was
Geoff Rickly Geoffrey William Rickly (born March 8, 1979) is an American musician, best known as the lead singer and songwriter of rock band Thursday. Rickly is also a member of hardcore punk band United Nations, and the alternative rock group No Devotion w ...
of the band
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.


History


Formation and early recording sessions (2005–2008)

The idea of the side project can be traced back to the early 2000s, but it was not until 2008 that United Nations took shape.
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has said the band started over tequila with
Daryl Palumbo Daryl Palumbo (born February 10, 1979) is an American musician, originally from Bellmore, New York. He is the frontman of the bands Glassjaw, Head Automatica and Color Film. As a youth he was a member of the Long Island straight edge band ''Xbus ...
. At the start of the band, all members except for Rickly were under contracts with other record labels and were not legally permitted to work in projects released by another, making it difficult for the official lineup of the band to be well known. However some members from the band's original line-up have been revealed through interviews and social media posts, such as Daryl Palumbo,"Daryl Palumbo talks Glassjaw, Head Automatica and grindcore side project United Nations."
Punknews.org. July 22, 2005.
Jonah Bayer and Lukas Previn. Since Rickly was the only member whose primary band was not under contract, his name is the only one that could legally appear in press materials."Thursday Frontman's United Nations Side Project Might Not Make It To Stores."
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. September 5, 2008.
Press photos of the band released in 2008 depict four people wearing Ronald Reagan masks."United Nations Look Similar To The Bank Robbers From Point Break."
The Syndicate Blog. August 26, 2008.
In 2008, the band claimed to have recorded enough material for two studio albums, two extended plays that would be released at some point. The band was uncertain if these would be the only releases by the band, or if the band will regroup to record more songs.


Debut album and EP (2008–2010)

United Nations released their self-titled debut on September 9, 2008, through
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. The band was ready to release the album with essentially the same photo cover for the iconic cover of
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'', with the exception of The Beatles engulfed in flames and walking to the left rather than the right. When stores began refusing to sell the album, pressing was halted with 1,000 albums already made. These were sold exclusively through the Eyeball Records webstore, and it was later released with a different cover. The album received minor success and while it didn't chart on the ''Billboard'' 200, it did chart at number 44 on the Billboard Independent Albums and number 14 on the Billboard
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. The band did not tour in support of the album, however they did play a handful of shows spread out over 2009 ending in 2010. United Nations played their first show on January 20, 2009, the day of Barack Obama's presidential inauguration. They played alongside Anti-Flag, Darkest Hour, Ruiner, and The A.K.A.s in Washington DC. The band's second show was on April 17, 2009 at the
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festival in Belgium. The band's third show was on May 23, 2009. Other known tour dates include December 30, 2009, January 15, 2010 and February 12, 2010. On June 23, 2010 United Nations released, '' Never Mind the Bombings, Here's Your Six Figures'', The four-song EP was released on June 23, 2010 through
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on 7" vinyl and as a digital download. The EP was expected to face similar copyright issues to the band's debut due to the title and cover being a parody of the Sex Pistols' album '' Never Mind the Bollocks, Here's the Sex Pistols''.


''The Next Four Years'' (2013–2015)

Nearly four years after their first show, United Nations performed live on January 18, 2013, in
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in Brooklyn, NY with Primitive Weapons, Descender and Black Clouds. In October and November 2013, United Nations toured the eastern US with
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and
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. The lineup for this tour featured Rickly, Bayer, Previn, and David Haik and Zac Sewell both of Pianos Become the Teeth. United Nations released their second studio album, '' The Next Four Years'', on July 14, 2014 through
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. The release of the album was preceded by a stream of "Serious Business". Following the release, the band toured the US in August 2014. Before United Nations's Brooklyn set in August 2014, Bayer's sister and ''
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'' cast member
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came on stage and
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the band.


"Stairway to Mar-a-Lago" (2017)

United Nations self-released the single "Stairway to Mar-a-Lago" on January 20, 2017 through
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on a name-your-price basis, to coincide with (and protest) the inauguration of US President Donald Trump. The proceeds went to Planned Parenthood and ACLU. The single notably features a new anonymous vocalist.


Influences and genre

United Nations have been described as
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, post-hardcore, grindcore "United Nations - Biography"''
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''. Retrieved on January 16, 2009.
and experimental hardcore. The band has stated to have influences from genres such as mid-1990s
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,United Nations FAQ.
United Nations' official site. Retrieved August 27, 2008.
hardcore,
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,"United Nations - Frequently Asked Questions"
''United Nations''. Retrieved on January 16, 2009.
and post-hardcore"Power Violence Band United Nations Frontman Geoff Rickly Urges Followers to Drop Cameras, Pick Up Rocks, Get Active"
''Headbangers Blog''. Retrieved on January 16, 2009.
and bands such as
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,
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,
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, Fugazi,
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and bands signed to
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"United Nations = Thursday + Glassjaw + ?, full stream, MP3"
''Brooklyn Vegan''. Retrieved on January 16, 2009.
and Ebullition Records. United Nations pays tribute to the bands from which they take their influence in their albums. On their self-titled debut album, the song titled "The Shape of Punk that Never Came" pays tribute to Refused's album ''
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'' – most notably in the lyric "Dennis, are you listening? Is there something that I'm missing?" which is directed toward
Dennis Lyxzén Sven Olov Dennis Lyxzén (born June 19, 1972) is a Swedish singer and songwriter, best known as the lead vocalist for influential Swedish hardcore punk band Refused, as well as the bands INVSN and Fake Names. He is also a former member of bands ...
, the lead singer of Refused. United Nations was inspired by bands that "raised questions about political corruption, social inequity, personal responsibility and artistic freedom" in opposition to bands that are more concerned with pop culture. Geoff Rickly commented on his vision for the band:


"Disinformation campaign"

Rickly has said “...in the beginning we had a deliberate disinformation campaign. I mean we tried to give different and contradictory information in almost every interview we did".


List of false information

* Rickly has said the band planned to release a
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style album, titled ''United Nations Plays Pretty for a Bunch of Fucking Babies''. The album's title was a parody of
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' album '' Plays Pretty for Baby''. In a 2014 interview Rickly confirmed this as fake. It is unclear if other announced albums such as ''The Dark Side of the UN'' are also fake. * The band has claimed comedian
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wrote lyrics for the band. In a 2014 interview Rickly said “I had people asking what Kristen Schaal was like, and stuff like that. In the end seeing what kinds of things people believed so easily got kind of frustrating and sad.”


Controversies


Debut cover art

Before its release, stores refused to sell the band's debut self-titled album because of trademark issues. As a result, only 1,000 copies were made with the controversial cover, and later copies were made with an alternative cover. The one thousand original copies were sold exclusively through the band and
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.


Band name

The international organization,
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, after which the band is named, discovered that a musical group had formed under the name of United Nations, and ordered
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to remove their official page. After deleting their page, Facebook informed the band about the removal and also stated, "The use of the name 'United Nations' by the Band and the use of its Logo which resembles the UN emblem has not been authorized and violates international and United States laws..." The band's record label comically responded the situation stating, "The United Nations, an international organization of some kind, has been taking issue with the band that shares its name. Who had the name first remains open to debate, but the problem exists nonetheless."Sailer, Ben
"UNITED NATIONS FACEBOOK PAGE SHUT DOWN BY THE REAL U.N."
''
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''. Retrieved on November 11, 2008.
Their label also hinted at the possibility of no longer being able to release their debut album. In December 2008, a little over a month after the band's Facebook was deleted, their MySpace page was also deleted.


Members

Due to the nature of the band, it is unclear who exactly is a member of United Nations at any given time. Early promotional images of the band depicted four people wearing Ronald Reagan masks, and all contributors were contractually obligated to remain anonymous. The only member not under contract was
Geoff Rickly Geoffrey William Rickly (born March 8, 1979) is an American musician, best known as the lead singer and songwriter of rock band Thursday. Rickly is also a member of hardcore punk band United Nations, and the alternative rock group No Devotion w ...
of the band
Thursday Thursday is the day of the week between Wednesday and Friday. According to the ISO 8601 international standard, it is the fourth day of the week. In countries which adopt the "Sunday-first" convention, it is the fifth day of the week. Name ''Se ...
, for press and media purposes. However, Jonah Bayer and Lukas Previn later became publicly announced members of United Nations as well. Many sources claim that
Daryl Palumbo Daryl Palumbo (born February 10, 1979) is an American musician, originally from Bellmore, New York. He is the frontman of the bands Glassjaw, Head Automatica and Color Film. As a youth he was a member of the Long Island straight edge band ''Xbus ...
,
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, and also members of various bands signed to
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contributed to United Nations.Kaufman, Jared
"United Nations (feat. Rickley and Palumbo) To Release Album"
''AbsolutePunk.net''. Retrieved on January 16, 2009.
The cease-and-desist letter sent to the band by the actual United Nations to Facebook to remove the band's profile listed approximately 30 people who the government entity suspected as being band members at the time. In a 2013 interview with Rickly, he elaborated on the revolving line-up of United Nations, stating: "The reason that we've been able to kind of get away with playing when we want to is because we change members and because we've never copyrighted any of the songs to any member. So, it's really hard to say who made what and who was just playing n United Nationsfor a little while. That's something that has protected us — the anonymity of the band, the changing nature of the band — it's like, 'Well i was only in it for a little while, and then it was these guys, and then it was these guys, and then it was these guys...'" In the same interview, managing editor of ''
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'' Scott Heisel asked Rickly if, because he is the only well-known member of United Nations, he was afraid of taking the full blame for any of the band's controversial or potentially illegal activity. He responded: "I don't feel like many bands take chances anymore. There's a lot of talk about being punk and revolutionary and this and that, but it's also awfully safe — punk seems awfully safe to me now, so I like the idea of doing something that's actually dangerous."


List of members and verifiable contributions


Discography


Studio albums


EPs


Singles

* "Stairway to Mar-a-Lago" (2017, Temporary Residence)


Notes

Jazz musician Billy Carrión Jr played saxophone on Say Goodbye to General Figment of the USS Imagination on the self titled United Nations album


References

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