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''Time to Win, Vol. 2'' is an album by Canadian
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band
Down with Webster Down With Webster is a Canadian rap rock band from The Beaches area of Toronto who signed with Universal Motown in April 2009. Down with Webster was originally formed for a middle school talent show. The band released their first official EP, '' ...
. It was released digitally on October 31, 2011, while physical versions of the album were released on November 1, 2011. The album was released through
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. This is the band's first major label full-length album. The album has peaked at No. 9 on the
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.


Background and recording

''Time to Win, Vol. 2'' was supposed to be the second of two seven-track mini-albums, following up to the band's debut mini-album, '' Time to Win, Vol. 1'' which was released in 2009. It was initially supposed to be released in the Spring of 2010. Bucky explained in an interview that the original concept was to release Time to Win in two mini-LP volumes because the band wanted "to get as much music out there as we could constantly, instead of having to wait a whole two to three years before we put another one out."Sheila (September 21, 2011).
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Cameron Hunter explained in an interview in September 2010 that ''Time to Win, Volume 2'', "probably would have been out a lot sooner, but the first one did a lot better than we expected, and a lot of other people expected and as a result, it gets pushed back as we shoot more videos. As a result, the new one probably won't be out until the New Year, but the original concept was they would be maybe six months apart, but things have taken a different turn." The band later changed their mind and turned ''Time to Win, Vol. 2'' into a full-length record. In an interview with Canada.com, Hunter said the record will "be a lot longer" and will have "12 or 13 songs" on it. The release was delayed until 2011 with the album looking to release in the "end of summer to early fall." Hunter also talked about some collaborations saying that the band "got to work with some different producers than we used on the first one. We got to work with some other key people, namely
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." On working with Boi-1da, Hunter said "we got some wicked stuff out of him, considering he's a straight-up hip-hop guy. The songs we made with him don't sound like anything that he's done. One of them is a track we're going to try to put to rock, alternative-rock radio. The song is called 'Professional'. I'm really pumped about that." Other producers on the album include Matthew Burnett, Zale Epstein, Stephen Kozmeniuk, Brett Ryan Kruger, Megaman and James Robertson. Robertson has also been a producer on the band's previous album, Time to Win, Vol. 1 and the band's 2007 self-titled self-released album.
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collaborated with Down with Webster in one song on the album. Recording locations of the album include Chille Ville Studios in Toronto, Diamond Factory Studios in Toronto, The Garage and Rumblecone in Toronto while mixing locations include South Beach Studios in Miami, Rumblecone in Toronto, Chille Ville Studios in Toronto and Gimme More Music Studios in Toronto. The albums was mastered at Sterling Sound in New York City. Tyler Armes told
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how the band has been working on the record since December 2010 saying, "We've been in the studio pretty much since December of last year getting our new record done." Armes also compared the writing to the band's previous EP, '' Time to Win, Vol. 1'' saying, "a lot of the songs that we wrote on the last EP, which came out in 2009, some of them were written as far back as 2006 and 2007. This record was primarily written in the last year or two, and it's night and day listening to something we wrote in 2006 or 2007 versus 2010."Couture, Joe (August 5, 2011).
It's been a high-intensity summer for DWW
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. Retrieved August 5, 2011.


Composition

In an interview on
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, Hunter stated that the album will be "a little bit more grown up" than their previous albums. Armes also talked to
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about a different sound in the album saying, "Everything just sounds bigger. We spent a lot of time on the guitars and drums on this record. It's definitely a growth in terms of where we've come from." On October 3, 2011, Down with Webster confirmed on their Facebook page that there will be 13 tracks on the album.
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said that "So Positive," "showcases the dedication and hard work by the boys with their insane guitar, drums, and piano work."Down with Webster's Time To Win Vol. 2 Worth The Wait
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. Retrieved November 8, 2011


Release and promotion

Down with Webster went on a tour in early 2011 to support the album. WINtour 2011 began on February 22 in
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. The tour featured 15 concerts across Canada. A demo of a new song called "Staring at the Sun" was posted on
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in early 2011. "I Want It All" was used in
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's "That Much Closer" for the
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. The song was recorded with
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. In late August 2011, a 2:36-second clip of "Professional" was released by the band onto their YouTube, SoundCloud and Facebook pages with the video containing segments from various concerts. A snippet of "Go Time" was played at the end of the last chapter of a series that was shown on MuchMusic called, ''SunDown With Webster'' by
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Late Night Chips. The four chapters were released a week apart from one another in the order: Inspiration, Conception, Execution, and Performance. The album was released digitally on October 31, 2011, and physical versions were released on November 1, 2011. November 8, 2011, was the initial release but was later moved up to October 31. The album was made available to
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from October 18, 2011, on
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. Along with the pre-order, the song "Professional" was made available to download on October 18, 2011, on iTunes. Down with Webster performed songs off the album and were interviewed in Live @ Much with Down with Webster, an hour-long television special on
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. A CD release concert was performed on October 30, 2011, at
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in Toronto.


Singles

The first single from the album, " She's Dope" was released on May 23, 2011, through digital distribution. It debuted at No. 52 on the
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and has since peaked at No. 18. " Big Wheels" will be released as the album's second single. A music video for the song was filmed on August 14, 2011. "Big Wheels" was released to radio on September 9, 2011. On September 13, 2011, the song was released through digital distribution. The music video premier for "Big Wheels" was shown on September 19, 2011, on the MuchMusic show, New.Music.Live. The song has peaked at No. 51 on the
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. "
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" is the third single from the album. On January 8, 2012, a music video for the song was filmed and on January 10 the song was released to radio.


Reception


Commercial

The album debuted at No. 62 on the
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for the week of November 12, 2011. The album was the sixth bestselling CD at
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s across Canada for the week ending November 5, 2011. The album jumped to No. 9 on the chart for the week of November 19, 2011, selling 6,000 copies in Canada in that week. The album earned a nomination at the 2012
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for " Pop Album of the Year".


Critical

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gave the album an 8/10 saying "you can feel the emotions that DWW were trying to project when listening to each song." Much Music also praised the song "Work" saying Down with Webster and Far East Movement "mesh perfectly" and commented on the lyrics saying "However, there was a consistent theme of winning and girls and you can tell that the boys have matured through their dope lyrics." Grace Duffy of Under The Gun Review gave the album nine out of ten stars saying that the album is "fast-paced and exhilarating throughout, but deftly mixes a diverse range of sounds, lyrical themes, and instruments" and also adding that "The mixing of styles is a striking enhancement of its appeal, its variety and accessibility ensuring it should reach the widest audience possible." bestfan.com said that Time to Win, Vol. 2 "won us over from the first to the last song." Al Kratina of the ''
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'' gave the album two and a half stars out of five saying "It's all popped collars, testosterone, and pick-up lines, like someone turned a drag race into open mic night" but also adding that one may begin "appreciating the organic drums, the hand-clap production in Professional and the occasional electronic flourish in Go Time."


Track listing

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's "I'd Like"


Personnel

*
Down with Webster Down With Webster is a Canadian rap rock band from The Beaches area of Toronto who signed with Universal Motown in April 2009. Down with Webster was originally formed for a middle school talent show. The band released their first official EP, '' ...
– producer ** Tyler Armes – bass guitar, keyboards ** Dave "D!ggy" Ferris – DJ ** Patrick "Pat" Gillett – guitar, vocals ** Cameron "Cam" Hunter –
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** Andrew "Marty" Martino – drums ** Martin "Bucky" Seja – rap vocals * Erik Alcock – additional guitar, background vocals * Matt Barnes – photography * Matthew Burnett – additional production *
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– producer * Demacio "Demo" Castellon – executive producer, engineering, mixing * Tom Coyne – mastering * Sunny Diamonds – engineering, mixing, pre-mixing of vocals, additional vocal mixing * Zale Epstein – producer, engineering *
Far East Movement Far East Movement (abbreviated FM) is an American Hip hop music, hip hop and electronic music group based in Los Angeles. The group formed in 2003 and as of August 2018 consists of Kev Nish (Kevin Nishimura), Prohgress (James Roh), DJ Virman (Vi ...
– rap vocals * Jordan Jacobs and Ryan Armes, SpyBox Media – management * Stephen Kozmeniuk – producer, engineering, additional guitar * Brett Ryan Kruger – producer * Tyson Kuteyi – mixing * Tom Lord-Alge – mixing * Megaman – producer, additional production * Gord Marriott – announcer in "Go Time" * James Robertson – producer, engineering, mixing * Liz Rodrigues – vocals * Kathryn Rose – background vocals * Conner Sharpe – additional engineering * Shmu – guitar


Charts


References

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