In
musical tuning
In music, there are two common meanings for tuning:
* #Tuning practice, Tuning practice, the act of tuning an instrument or voice.
* #Tuning systems, Tuning systems, the various systems of Pitch (music), pitches used to tune an instrument, and ...
, the Pythagorean comma (or ditonic comma), named after the ancient mathematician and philosopher
Pythagoras
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, is the small
interval (or
comma
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) existing in
Pythagorean tuning
Pythagorean tuning is a system of musical tuning in which the frequency ratios of all intervals are determined by choosing a sequence of fifthsBruce Benward and Marilyn Nadine Saker (2003). ''Music: In Theory and Practice'', seventh editi ...
between two
enharmonically equivalent notes such as C and B, or D and C. It is equal to the
frequency ratio
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=
≈ 1.01364, or about 23.46
cents, roughly a quarter of a
semitone
A semitone, also called a minor second, half step, or a half tone, is the smallest musical interval commonly used in Western tonal music, and it is considered the most dissonant when sounded harmonically.
It is defined as the interval between ...
(in between 75:74 and 74:73). The comma that
musical temperament
In musical tuning, a temperament is a tuning system that slightly compromises the pure intervals of just intonation to meet other requirements. Most modern Western musical instruments are tuned in the equal temperament system. Tempering is the p ...
s often "temper" is the Pythagorean comma.
The Pythagorean comma can be also defined as the difference between a
Pythagorean apotome and a
Pythagorean limma (i.e., between a chromatic and a diatonic
semitone
A semitone, also called a minor second, half step, or a half tone, is the smallest musical interval commonly used in Western tonal music, and it is considered the most dissonant when sounded harmonically.
It is defined as the interval between ...
, as determined in Pythagorean tuning); the difference between 12
just perfect fifth
In music theory, a perfect fifth is the Interval (music), musical interval corresponding to a pair of pitch (music), pitches with a frequency ratio of 3:2, or very nearly so.
In classical music from Western culture, a fifth is the interval f ...
s and seven
octave
In music, an octave (: eighth) or perfect octave (sometimes called the diapason) is an interval between two notes, one having twice the frequency of vibration of the other. The octave relationship is a natural phenomenon that has been referr ...
s; or the difference between three Pythagorean
ditone
In music, a ditone (, from , "of two tones") is the interval of a major third. The size of a ditone varies according to the sizes of the two tones of which it is compounded. The largest is the Pythagorean ditone, with a ratio of 81:64, also ca ...
s and one octave. (This is why the Pythagorean comma is also called a ''ditonic comma''.)
The
diminished second, in Pythagorean tuning, is defined as the difference between limma and apotome. It coincides, therefore, with the opposite of a Pythagorean comma, and can be viewed as a ''descending'' Pythagorean comma (e.g. from C to D), equal to about −23.46 cents.
Derivation
As described in the introduction, the Pythagorean comma may be derived in multiple ways:
* Difference between two
enharmonically equivalent notes in a Pythagorean scale, such as C and B, or D and C (see
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).
* Difference between
Pythagorean apotome and
Pythagorean limma.
* Difference between 12 just
perfect fifth
In music theory, a perfect fifth is the Interval (music), musical interval corresponding to a pair of pitch (music), pitches with a frequency ratio of 3:2, or very nearly so.
In classical music from Western culture, a fifth is the interval f ...
s and seven
octaves
In music, an octave (: eighth) or perfect octave (sometimes called the diapason) is an interval between two notes, one having twice the frequency of vibration of the other. The octave relationship is a natural phenomenon that has been referr ...
.
* Difference between three Pythagorean
ditone
In music, a ditone (, from , "of two tones") is the interval of a major third. The size of a ditone varies according to the sizes of the two tones of which it is compounded. The largest is the Pythagorean ditone, with a ratio of 81:64, also ca ...
s (
major third
In music theory, a third is a Interval (music), musical interval encompassing three staff positions (see Interval (music)#Number, Interval number for more details), and the major third () is a third spanning four Semitone, half steps or two ...
s) and one octave.
A just perfect fifth has a
frequency ratio
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of 3:2. It is used in Pythagorean tuning, together with the octave, as a yardstick to define, with respect to a given initial note, the frequency of any other note.
Apotome and limma are the two kinds of
semitone
A semitone, also called a minor second, half step, or a half tone, is the smallest musical interval commonly used in Western tonal music, and it is considered the most dissonant when sounded harmonically.
It is defined as the interval between ...
s defined in Pythagorean tuning. Namely, the apotome (about 113.69 cents, e.g. from C to C) is the chromatic semitone, or augmented unison (A1), while the limma (about 90.23 cents, e.g. from C to D) is the diatonic semitone, or minor second (m2).
A ditone (or
major third
In music theory, a third is a Interval (music), musical interval encompassing three staff positions (see Interval (music)#Number, Interval number for more details), and the major third () is a third spanning four Semitone, half steps or two ...
) is an interval formed by two
major tone
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s. In Pythagorean tuning, a major tone has a size of about 203.9 cents (frequency ratio 9:8), thus a Pythagorean ditone is about 407.8 cents.
Size

The size of a Pythagorean comma, measured in
cents, is
:
or more exactly, in terms of
frequency ratios:
:
Circle of fifths and enharmonic change
The Pythagorean comma can also be thought of as the discrepancy between 12
justly tuned perfect fifth
In music theory, a perfect fifth is the Interval (music), musical interval corresponding to a pair of pitch (music), pitches with a frequency ratio of 3:2, or very nearly so.
In classical music from Western culture, a fifth is the interval f ...
s (ratio 3:2) and seven octaves (ratio 2:1):
:
In the following table of
musical scale
In music theory, a scale is "any consecutive series of notes that form a progression between one note and its octave", typically by order of pitch or fundamental frequency.
The word "scale" originates from the Latin ''scala'', which literal ...
s in the
circle of fifths
In music theory, the circle of fifths (sometimes also cycle of fifths) is a way of organizing pitches as a sequence of perfect fifths. Starting on a C, and using the standard system of tuning for Western music (12-tone equal temperament), the se ...
, the Pythagorean comma is visible as the small interval between, e.g., F and G. Going around the circle of fifths with just intervals results in a
comma pump by the Pythagorean comma.
The 6 and the 6 scales are not identical—even though they are on the
piano keyboard—but the scales are one Pythagorean comma lower. Disregarding this difference leads to
enharmonic change.
This interval has serious implications for the various
tuning schemes of the
chromatic scale
The chromatic scale (or twelve-tone scale) is a set of twelve pitches (more completely, pitch classes) used in tonal music, with notes separated by the interval of a semitone. Chromatic instruments, such as the piano, are made to produce the ...
, because in Western music,
12 perfect fifths and seven octaves are treated as the same interval.
Equal temperament
An equal temperament is a musical temperament or Musical tuning#Tuning systems, tuning system that approximates Just intonation, just intervals by dividing an octave (or other interval) into steps such that the ratio of the frequency, frequencie ...
, today the most common tuning system in the West, reconciled this by flattening each fifth by a twelfth of a Pythagorean comma (approximately 2 cents), thus producing perfect octaves.
Another way to express this is that the just fifth has a frequency ratio (compared to the tonic) of 3:2 or 1.5 to 1, whereas the seventh semitone (based on 12 equal logarithmic divisions of an octave) is the seventh power of the
twelfth root of two
The twelfth root of two or \sqrt 2/math> (or equivalently 2^) is an algebraic irrational number, approximately equal to 1.0594631. It is most important in Western music theory, where it represents the frequency ratio ( musical interval) of a se ...
or 1.4983... to 1, which is not quite the same (a difference of about 0.1%). Take the just fifth to the 12th power, then subtract seven octaves, and you get the Pythagorean comma (about a 1.4% difference).
History
The first to mention the comma's proportion of 531441:524288 was
Euclid
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, who takes as a basis the whole tone of Pythagorean tuning with the ratio of 9:8, the octave with the ratio of 2:1, and a number A = 262144. He concludes that raising this number by six whole tones yields a value, G, that is larger than that yielded by raising it by an octave (two times A). He gives G to be 531441. The necessary calculations read:
Calculation of G:
::
Calculation of the double of A:
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Chinese mathematicians were aware of the Pythagorean comma as early as 122 BC (its calculation is detailed in the ''
Huainanzi
The ''Huainanzi'' is an ancient Chinese text made up of essays from scholarly debates held at the court of Liu An, Prince of Huainan, before 139 BCE. Compiled as a handbook for an enlightened sovereign and his court, the work attempts to defi ...
''), and ca. 50 BC,
Jing Fang
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discovered that if the cycle of perfect fifths were continued beyond 12 all the way to 53, the difference between this 53rd pitch and the starting pitch would be much smaller than the Pythagorean comma. This much smaller interval was later named
Mercator's comma (''see:
history of 53 equal temperament'').
In George Russell's ''
Lydian Chromatic Concept of Tonal Organization'' (1953), the half step between the Lydian Tonic and 2 in his Altered Major and Minor Auxiliary Diminished Blues scales is theoretically based on the Pythagorean comma.
[ Russell, George (2001) 953 George Russell's '' Lydian Chromatic Concept of Tonal Organization''. Volume One: The art and science of tonal gravity (Fourth (Second printing, corrected, 2008) ed.). Brookline, Massachusetts: Concept Publishing Company. pp. 17, 57–59. .]
See also
*
Holdrian comma
*
Schisma
In music, the schisma (also spelled ''skhisma'') is the interval between the syntonic comma (81:80) and the Pythagorean comma which is slightly larger. It equals or ≈ 1.00113, which corresponds to 1.9537 cents (). It may also ...
Notes
References
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