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''Phoebe Snow'' was a named passenger train which was once operated by the
Delaware, Lackawanna and Western Railroad The Delaware, Lackawanna and Western Railroad (also known as the DL&W or Lackawanna Railroad) was a U.S. Class 1 railroad that connected Buffalo, New York, and Hoboken, New Jersey (and by ferry with New York City), a distance of . Incorporated in ...
(DL&W) and, after a brief hiatus, the
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(EL).


History


Lackawanna Limited

Around 1900, the DL&W launched a marketing campaign around the fictional character of
Phoebe Snow Phoebe Snow (born Phoebe Ann Laub; July 17, 1950 – April 26, 2011) was an American roots music singer-songwriter and guitarist, known for her hit 1974 and 1975 songs "San Francisco Bay Blues", "Poetry Man", "Harpo's Blues", and her credited g ...
to emphasize how the exhaust from its steam locomotives was cleaner than competitors' locomotives, as a result of using
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coal. The train took its name from the character. Its route traveled across
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, passing over the
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and the
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of the Lackawanna Cut-off;
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, passing over the
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; and the
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region of
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. The ''Lackawanna Limited'' was known for its fast time as well as the scenery of the route. It included a Pullman full vestibule parlor car, sleeping car, dining car and coaches. Running during daylight hours, scenery included the
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,
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and the Susquehanna and
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valleys. The fast train stopped only at principal cities. On August 30, 1943, the ''Lackawanna Limited'' wrecked in
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, when it sideswiped a local freight that had not cleared into a
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, killing 29 and injuring more than 100.


DL&W era (1949-60)

On November 15, 1949, the DL&W inaugurated a new
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named after its long-dormant promotional symbol. Launched by DL&W president William White, the new ''Phoebe Snow'' represented the DL&W's modernization of its passenger train fleet and image, as it became Train No. 3 (westbound) and No. 6 (eastbound), which previously had been assigned to the railroad's former premier train, the ''Lackawanna Limited''. The ''Phoebe Snow'' ran on a daylight schedule between
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(
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), and
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( Lackawanna Station), making the trip in about eight hours. Westbound, after Buffalo, the
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and some
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would continue on to
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,
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, over the
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's ''
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'' and, on return, would be transferred in Buffalo to Train No. 10, the ''New York Mail''. The train's reclining-seat coaches were taken from a pool of 26 cars split between builders
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and
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(ACF). The dining cars and tavern-lounge-observation cars for the two ''Phoebe Snow'' consists were built by the
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, while the through sleeping car in each consist was taken from a pool of nine 10-roomette, 6-double bedroom cars built for the Lackawanna by ACF. Motive power was provided initially by an A-B-A set of passenger-equipped
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diesels, but their
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provided insufficient heat to the train in winter, and were supplanted by a pair of EMD E8A diesel-electric locomotives. In 1958, as part of the consolidation of operations between the
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and DL&W railroads—the roads would merge formally in 1960 to form the EL—DL&W's mainline between
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and
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, was severed and all trains traveling between those points were rerouted over the Erie mainline. Between April 29 and July 1, 1962, all passenger trains between Corning and Buffalo were re-routed off the DL&W mainline over Dansville Hill to the former Erie mainline via
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: a route that was longer than the old one and added an hour to the scheduled time.


EL era (1963-66)

After the EL merger, the ''Phoebe Snow'' continued to run as #3. However, since the signature tavern-lounge cars (combination observation cars and bar cars), with the ''Phoebe Snow''
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s on their tail ends, were so closely identified with the train that, when these cars were taken off the train and placed into storage shortly after the merger, many observers were led to believe that the train had been discontinued. This was not true. The train continued to run, albeit without the cars that arguably defined it and with a new name: '' Erie Lackawanna Limited'' (a merger renaming of the ''
Erie Limited The ''Erie Limited'' was a streamlined passenger train operated by the Erie Railroad between Jersey City, New Jersey (for New York City) and Chicago, Illinois via the Southern Tier. It operated from 1929 to 1963. After the merger of the Erie an ...
''). Reportedly, the cars had been placed into storage in the unused Erie shop facilities at
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because they were deemed a nuisance, as they had to be turned on a
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or a wye at the end of each trip. An alternative explanation for the discontinuation of the cars was that the Erie management resented the symbol of the DL&W playing such a prominent a role in the EL passenger train operation and sought to dispose of it wherever they could. However, it was equally true that the observation cars' bar facilities lacked the ability to provide proper food service, unlike the EL's dining-lounge cars, which could serve both meals and beverages as well as provide distinct seating for each type of service. Whatever the reason, the observation cars were restored after William White was appointed EL president on June 18, 1963. The originator of the ''Phoebe Snow'' ordered the train "reborn" as train #1, replacing the short-lived ''Erie-Lackawanna Limited''. White was looking for a way to boost both EL employee morale and to gain some positive publicity for the foundering railroad; the move accomplished both. However, since a Hoboken-Chicago routing was chosen, which bypassed Buffalo, the train was put into direct competition with the
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's passenger operation. In an earlier time, the new train might have flourished, but with the steadily declining image of passenger rail travel in the U.S. in general, and competition from airlines in particular, it was doomed from the start. On November 27, 1966, the EL terminated the ''Phoebe Snow'' for good, leaving the '' Lake Cities'' as the EL's last long-haul passenger train, using ''Phoebe Snow'' diner cars and
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service: a service that ran until the ''Lake Cities'' also was discontinued on January 5–6, 1970. The trademark tavern-lounge cars were placed in storage again after the final run, although they appeared occasionally at the rear of special trains until sold-off. Until spring, 1969, the nighttime counterparts to the ''Phoebe Snow'' to Buffalo, the ''Owl'' (#15) westbound (in 1962 having lost its sleeping car), and ''New York Mail'' (#10) eastbound (in 1963 having lost its sleeping car), remained running. It ran as an express through New Jersey and the Poconos, between Hoboken and Scranton, making only at a stop in East Stroudsburg.


Amtrak

The EL discontinued its last long-distance passenger train, ''Lake Cities'', on January 6, 1970, about 16 months before
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took over most U.S. passenger train operations. Amtrak might have taken over the Hoboken-Chicago operation, but observers speculated that the EL wanted to rid itself of its passenger trains before that could happen. On November 13, 1979, three years after Conrail assumed operation of the former EL lines, Amtrak operated an inspection train over the former route of the ''Phoebe Snow'' between Hoboken and Scranton to determine the feasibility of restoring rail service between the two cities, and to try to prevent the abandonment of the Lackawanna Cut-Off. Dubbed the ''Pocono Day Express'', it was the last passenger train to run over the route of ''Phoebe Snow'' in the twentieth century. Amtrak was facing budget cuts that threatened numerous routes across the country at that time, however. The addition of a new route, one which had not seen a passenger train in nearly a decade, was a low priority.


Proposals for service restoration

On January 25, 2008, New York Senator
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announced that Amtrak and the New York Department of Transportation were studying a proposal to create a passenger rail line between
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; Binghamton; and Scranton, with service on to New York City via a restored Lackawanna Cut-Off. Unlike the original ''Phoebe Snow'' train, which terminated at the
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in Hoboken, the new service would reach New York's
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via the
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. Although Schumer's proposal reportedly has been shelved in favor of a routing via
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,
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is pursuing a proposal to offer commuter rail service between Scranton and New York.


Disposition of cars

The ACF coaches used on the ''Phoebe Snow'' were split up; most were sold to New York's Metropolitan Transportation Authority for use as commuter cars. At least one coach ended up with
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where it was used on the '' Valpo Local'' out of Chicago, and several were sold to the
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. As of 2012, surviving coaches include: *310/1310: Kept in the former
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yard in
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, it is owned by the Myles Group, operator of the
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.http://nrhs1.org/assets/1503_March_Dispatcher.pdf *311/1311: converted into an open-air car, it runs on the
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*315/1315 and 317/1317: Formerly part of the Coe Rail dinner trains, they are now owned by the
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in New York. *318/1318: Privately owned in
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, it is being restored as a lounge car in a hybrid DL&W/EL paint livery. *325/1325: Restored as a
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coach, it currently runs on the Austin and Texas Central Railroad. Both Tavern-Lounge cars (789 and 790) survive. Once used as parlor cars by the
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, they were later acquired by
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, which still uses them on inspection and business trains. Both Budd-built streamlined diners (469/769 and 470/770) also survive. The 469 is fully operational, with several minor issues, while the 470 requires a full restoration. Owned by the Erie Lackawanna Dining Car Preservation Society, a nonprofit historical group based in
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, the diners are slated for restoration as DL&W 469 and EL 770, respectively.eldcps.org None of the sleeping cars survive.


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Erie Lackawanna Dining Car Preservation Society
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