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''If You Swear, You'll Catch No Fish'' is the second full-length album by the Canadian
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band
SNFU SNFU was a Canadian hardcore punk band from Edmonton, formed in 1981 as Society's No Fucking Use. They relocated to Vancouver in 1992 and went on hiatus in 2018 due to illness. They released eight albums, two live records, and one compilation ami ...
. It was recorded in April 1986 at Power Zone Studio in
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—although the album's liner notes claim the studio is located in
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—and was released on
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in 1986. More diverse than their debut album, ''If You Swear, You'll Catch No Fish'' helped solidify SNFU's status in the North American
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community and influenced the formation of the
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subgenre.


Background and recording

The lineup of SNFU appearing on ''If You Swear, You'll Catch No Fish'' formed in June 1985 for touring in support the band's debut album, '' ...And No One Else Wanted to Play''. It was during this period that material from ''If You Swear, You'll Catch No Fish'' was first performed live, including early songs like "The Ceiling" and "Mind Like a Door". The group assembled the rest of the material over the next few months before recording in April 1986. The band opted to record with Dave Mockford at Power Zone Studio in their home city of Edmonton, with whom they had twice previously recorded compilation material. They recorded basic tracks in a single day,Walter 67 and focused on overdubs and mixing thereafter. While many of the songs included the "blistering" hardcore punk sound of their debut, the album also included more experimental composition and recording techniques, including the use of sound effects, keyboard effects, and general "studio wizardry" by Mockford and the band members. As with their debut, many songs featured music primarily written by guitarist Marc Belke and lyrics by vocalist
Ken Chinn Kendall Steven Chinn (October 19, 1962 – July 16, 2020), known under the stage name Mr. Chi Pig, was a Canadian punk rock vocalist and artist born in Edmonton and long residing in Vancouver. He fronted the hardcore punk band SNFU from 1981 unti ...
. But the new band members contributed material as well, such as bassist Dave Bacon's composition of "The Devil's Voice" and "Where's My Legs?", and drummer
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's "Snapping Turtle". Card left the band during recording sessions to attend to familial commitments, though he would rejoin the band in 1991 for his second of three stints. Chinn took the album's title from a fortune cookie.Walter 69 When he realized that each of the first two records inadvertently contained seven-word titles, he established the tradition of maintaining seven-word titles for all albums.


Release

The album, their second with
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, was initially slated to be released in September 1986. Card was replaced by
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drummer Ted Simm for the supporting tours, which would be largest upon which the band had embarked at that time.Walter 70 When the album's release date was delayed, they self-issued the '' She's Not on the Menu'' EP as a stopgap release. The album was ultimately released late in 1986. Its cover features a sculpture by Edmonton artist Blake Senini and graphics by longtime SNFU associate Ken Hansen.Walter 73 The band filmed a music video for the track "Black Cloud" at the BYO warehouse early in 1987.Walter 78 This was SNFU's first music video, and would be their only video from the 1980s.


Reception

The album has received generally positive reviews since its initial release. In 1986, ''
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'' described the material on the album as "much stronger than the tunes on he band'sdebut L.P."''
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''. Scene Report. Issue 39: August 1986
In a retrospective review, critic Vincent Jeffries wrote for
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that the record is " nsidered by many to be the band's finest release" and that it "deservedly ranks high on many all-time punk lists." Jeffries awarded the album four out of five stars. But as SNFU biographer Chris Walter suggests, the album's thin and experimental sound also alienated some listeners, as the band itself would later express mixed feelings about the album's post-production mastering.


Track listing

All songs written by
SNFU SNFU was a Canadian hardcore punk band from Edmonton, formed in 1981 as Society's No Fucking Use. They relocated to Vancouver in 1992 and went on hiatus in 2018 due to illness. They released eight albums, two live records, and one compilation ami ...
.


Band members

*Mr. Chi Pig (
Ken Chinn Kendall Steven Chinn (October 19, 1962 – July 16, 2020), known under the stage name Mr. Chi Pig, was a Canadian punk rock vocalist and artist born in Edmonton and long residing in Vancouver. He fronted the hardcore punk band SNFU from 1981 unti ...
) – vocals *Muc ( Marc Belke) – guitar *Brent Bunthoven ( Brent Belke) – guitar *Dave Bacon – bass guitar *J. Seth Card (
Jon Card Jon Card (December 11, 1960 – April 8, 2024) was a German-born Canadian drummer. He played in the punk rock bands Personality Crisis, SNFU, D.O.A., and The Subhumans. Life and career Card was born to a Royal Canadian Air Force pilot in Zwe ...
) – drums


References

{{Authority control SNFU albums 1986 albums BYO Records albums