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), or a very small musical interval, usually defined as the difference between an
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(in the
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2:1) and three justly tuned major thirds (tuned in the ratio 5:4), equal to 128:125 or about 41.06
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12-tone equal temperament Twelve-tone equal temperament (12-TET) is the musical system that divides the octave into 12 parts, all of which are equally tempered (equally spaced) on a logarithmic scale, with a ratio equal to the 12th root of 2 ( ≈ 1.05946). That resultin ...
(on a piano for example) three major thirds in a row equal an octave, but three justly-tuned major thirds fall quite a bit narrow of an octave, and the diesis describes the amount by which they are short. For instance, an octave (2:1) spans from C to C', and three justly tuned major thirds (5:4) span from C to B (namely, from C, to E, to G, to B). The difference between C-C' (2:1) and C-B (125:64) is the diesis (128:125). Notice that this coincides with the interval between B and C', also called a
diminished second In modern Western tonal music theory, a diminished second is the interval produced by narrowing a minor second by one chromatic semitone.Bruce Benward and Marilyn Saker (2003). ''Music: In Theory and Practice, Vol. I'', p. 54. . Specific example ...
. The diesis is a
comma The comma is a punctuation mark that appears in several variants in different languages. It has the same shape as an apostrophe or single closing quotation mark () in many typefaces, but it differs from them in being placed on the baseline ...
. The above-mentioned 128:125 comma is also known as the lesser diesis, as opposed to a wider comma (648:625) known as greater diesis. As shown in the picture, in the
quarter-comma meantone Quarter-comma meantone, or -comma meantone, was the most common meantone temperament in the sixteenth and seventeenth centuries, and was sometimes used later. In this system the perfect fifth is flattened by one quarter of a syntonic comma (81:80 ...
tuning system (a tuning system in which, by definition, major thirds are justly tuned), the
diminished second In modern Western tonal music theory, a diminished second is the interval produced by narrowing a minor second by one chromatic semitone.Bruce Benward and Marilyn Saker (2003). ''Music: In Theory and Practice, Vol. I'', p. 54. . Specific example ...
coincides with the diesis.


Alternative definitions

In any tuning system, the deviation of an octave from three major thirds, however large that is, is typically referred to as a
diminished second In modern Western tonal music theory, a diminished second is the interval produced by narrowing a minor second by one chromatic semitone.Bruce Benward and Marilyn Saker (2003). ''Music: In Theory and Practice, Vol. I'', p. 54. . Specific example ...
. The diminished second is an interval between pairs of
enharmonically equivalent In modern musical notation and tuning, an enharmonic equivalent is a note, interval, or key signature that is equivalent to some other note, interval, or key signature but "spelled", or named differently. The enharmonic spelling of a written no ...
notes; for instance the interval between E and F. As mentioned above, the term ''diesis'' most commonly refers to the diminished second in quarter-comma meantone temperament. Less frequently and less strictly, the same term is also used to refer to a diminished second of any size. In third-comma meantone, the diminished second is typically denoted as a greater diesis (see below). In quarter-comma meantone, since major thirds are justly tuned, the width of the diminished second coincides with the above-mentioned value of 128:125. Notice that 128:125 is larger than a
unison In music, unison is two or more musical parts that sound either the same pitch or pitches separated by intervals of one or more octaves, usually at the same time. ''Rhythmic unison'' is another term for homorhythm. Definition Unison or per ...
(1:1). This means that, for instance, C' is sharper than B. In other tuning systems, the diminished second has different widths, and may be smaller than a unison (e.g. C' may be flatter than B): * a greater diesis above unison (648:625) for third-comma meantone temperament (see below), * a
diaschisma The diaschisma (or diacisma) is a small musical interval defined as the difference between three octaves and four perfect fifths plus two major thirds (in just intonation). It can be represented by the ratio 2048:2025 and is about 19.5 cents. ...
above unison (2048:2025) for sixth-comma, * a
schisma In music, the schisma (also spelled ''skhisma'') is the interval between a Pythagorean comma (531441:524288) and a syntonic comma (81:80) and equals or 32805:32768 = 1.00113, which is 1.9537 cents (). It may also be defined as: * the differe ...
below unison (32768:32805) for twelfth-comma, and * a
Pythagorean comma In musical tuning, the Pythagorean comma (or ditonic comma), named after the ancient mathematician and philosopher Pythagoras, is the small interval (or comma) existing in Pythagorean tuning between two enharmonically equivalent notes such as C ...
below unison (524288:531441) for
Pythagorean tuning Pythagorean tuning is a system of musical tuning in which the frequency ratios of all intervals are based on the ratio 3:2.Bruce Benward and Marilyn Nadine Saker (2003). ''Music: In Theory and Practice'', seventh edition, 2 vols. (Boston: Mc ...
. In eleventh-comma meantone, the diminished second is within 1/716 (0.0014) of a
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above unison, so it closely resembles the 1:1 unison ratio of twelve-tone
equal temperament An equal temperament is a musical temperament or tuning system, which approximates just intervals by dividing an octave (or other interval) into equal steps. This means the ratio of the frequencies of any adjacent pair of notes is the same, wh ...
. The word ''diesis'' has also been used to describe a large number of intervals, of varying sizes, but typically around 50 cents.
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used it to describe the interval now usually called a ''
limma The word limma or leimma (from Greek: λείμμα, ''leimma''; meaning "remnant") can refer to several different musical intervals, whose only common property is their small size. :More specifically, in Pythagorean tuning (i.e. 3-limit): :*The ori ...
'', that of a justly tuned perfect fourth ( 4:3) minus two whole tones (9:8), equal to 256:243 or about 90.22 cents.
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, in his ''
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'' (1722), names 125:148 (, ''
recte The Latin adverb ''sic'' (; "thus", "just as"; in full: , "thus was it written") inserted after a quoted word or passage indicates that the quoted matter has been transcribed or translated exactly as found in the source text, complete with any e ...
'' 125:128) as a "minor diesis" and 243:250 as a "major diesis", explaining that the latter may be derived through multiplication of the former by the ratio 15552:15625. Other theorists have used it for various other intervals.


Greater and lesser diesis

Some acoustics texts use the term ''greater diesis'' for the difference between an octave and four justly tuned minor thirds (tuned in the
ratio In mathematics, a ratio shows how many times one number contains another. For example, if there are eight oranges and six lemons in a bowl of fruit, then the ratio of oranges to lemons is eight to six (that is, 8:6, which is equivalent to the ...
6:5), which is equal to three
syntonic comma In music theory, the syntonic comma, also known as the chromatic diesis, the Didymean comma, the Ptolemaic comma, or the diatonic comma is a small comma type interval between two musical notes, equal to the frequency ratio 81:80 (= 1.0125) ( ...
s minus a
schisma In music, the schisma (also spelled ''skhisma'') is the interval between a Pythagorean comma (531441:524288) and a syntonic comma (81:80) and equals or 32805:32768 = 1.00113, which is 1.9537 cents (). It may also be defined as: * the differe ...
, equal to 648:625 or about 62.57 cents (almost one 63.16-cent division in
19 equal temperament In music, 19 Tone Equal Temperament, called 19 TET, 19 EDO ("Equal Division of the Octave"), or 19  ET, is the tempered scale derived by dividing the octave into 19 equal steps (equal frequency ratios). Each step represent ...
). Being larger, this diesis was termed "greater" while the 128:125 diesis (41.06 cents) was termed "lesser". The small diesis is 3125:3072 or approximately 29.61 cents.
Hermann von Helmholtz Hermann Ludwig Ferdinand von Helmholtz (31 August 1821 – 8 September 1894) was a German physicist and physician who made significant contributions in several scientific fields, particularly hydrodynamic stability. The Helmholtz Association, ...
, ''On the
Sensations of Tone ''On the Sensations of Tone as a Physiological Basis for the Theory of Music'' (German ), commonly referred to as ''Sensations of Tone'', is a foundational work on music acoustics and the perception of sound by Hermann von Helmholtz. The first G ...
'', 2nd English translation by
Alexander John Ellis Alexander John Ellis, (14 June 1814 – 28 October 1890), was an English mathematician, philologist and early phonetician who also influenced the field of musicology. He changed his name from his father's name, Sharpe, to his mother's maiden na ...
(1885), page 453. Quoted in the
Tonalsoft Encyclopedia of Microtonal Music Theory
'.


Septimal and undecimal diesis

The
septimal diesis In music, septimal diesis (or slendro diesis) is an interval with the ratio of 49:48 , which is the difference between the septimal whole tone and the septimal minor third. It is about 35.7 cents wide, which is narrower than a quarter-tone but ...
(or
slendro Slendro ( jv, ꦱ꧀ꦭꦺꦤ꧀ꦢꦿꦺꦴ, ban, slendro, translit=Sléndro) ( su, salendro, translit=Saléndro) is one of the essential tuning systems used in gamelan instruments that have pentatonic scale. Based on Javanese mythology, ...
diesis) is an interval with the ratio of 49:48 , which is the difference between the
septimal whole tone In music, the septimal whole tone, septimal major second, or supermajor second is the musical interval exactly or approximately equal to an 8/7 ratio of frequencies.Andrew Horner, Lydia Ayres (2002). ''Cooking with Csound: Woodwind and Brass ...
and the
septimal minor third In music, the septimal minor third, also called the subminor third (e.g., by Ellis), is the musical interval exactly or approximately equal to a 7/6 ratio of frequencies. In terms of cents, it is 267 cents, a quartertone of size 36/35 flatter ...
. It is about 35.70 cents wide. The undecimal diesis is equal to 45:44 or about 38.91 cents, closely approximated by
31 equal temperament In music, 31 equal temperament, 31-ET, which can also be abbreviated 31-TET (31 tone ET) or 31- EDO (equal division of the octave), also known as tricesimoprimal, is the tempered scale derived by dividing the octave into 31 equal-sized steps (equ ...
's 38.71 cent interval.


See also

* Chromatic diesis *
Septimal diesis In music, septimal diesis (or slendro diesis) is an interval with the ratio of 49:48 , which is the difference between the septimal whole tone and the septimal minor third. It is about 35.7 cents wide, which is narrower than a quarter-tone but ...
*
Ditone In music, a ditone (, from , "of two tones") is the interval of a major third. The size of a ditone varies according to the sizes of the two tones of which it is compounded. The largest is the Pythagorean ditone, with a ratio of 81:64, also cal ...


References

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