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Band of Susans was an American
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band formed in New York City in 1986 and active until 1996. It originally consisted of
Robert Poss Robert Poss is an American guitarist and music producer. He was the front man and primary composer for Band of Susans between 1986 and 1996. He has also collaborated with Rhys Chatham and the band When People Were Shorter and Lived Near the Wate ...
(guitar/vocals), Susan Stenger (bass/vocals), Ron Spitzer (drums), with Susan Lyall (guitar), Susan Tallman (guitar), and Alva Rogers (vocals). The band would undergo several permutations over the years, usually involving three guitarists. Poss, Stenger, and Spitzer were the band's core members throughout its duration. They originated in the New York
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scene, but due to their layered guitar sound were sometimes seen as the American counterparts to the UK
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bands and also drew influence from modern experimental composers
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and
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.


History

In the early to mid-1980s, Poss studied under the tutelage of avant-garde guitar ensemble composer
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, and played in the bands Tot Rocket and Western Eyes. The band was formed by avant-garde flautist Susan Stenger and guitarist
Robert Poss Robert Poss is an American guitarist and music producer. He was the front man and primary composer for Band of Susans between 1986 and 1996. He has also collaborated with Rhys Chatham and the band When People Were Shorter and Lived Near the Wate ...
, they took their name from the trio of Susans then in the lineup. Poss, Stenger, and Spitzer grew up together in
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. Band of Susans released the 12" EP ''Blessing And Curse'' on Poss's own Trace Elements label. A record-release party (also said to be the band's first-ever live gig) was held at NYC's The Love Club on January 31, 1987; BoS were the opening act for a band called Das Furlines. They were soon signed to the avant-garde
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imprint of UK record label
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. After the release of début album ''Hope Against Hope'', Rogers, Lyall and Tallman quit, and were replaced by Karen Haglof (guitar) and
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(guitar). This lineup recorded the album ''Love Agenda'' and a
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EP, which featured a cover of
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's "I Found That Essence Rare". The two new guitarists then quit, with Hamilton quickly forming the more metal-influenced
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. Anne Husick (guitar) and Mark Lonergan (guitar) then joined BoS, yielding the band's "classic lineup" which made three more albums and one EP, all on
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. According to ''The Great Indie Discography'' compilation, "...unfortunately, success is the one thing that has eluded the Band of Susans and Co. throughout their decade-plus lifespan."


Sonic characteristics

Band of Susans was a "rock band without the rock clichés ... each instrument was given its own part, and they fitted together like building blocks to create droning, dense textures." As their history of having eight guitarists in all (and never less than three at any given time) attests, Band of Susans were a heavily guitar-centric outfit. They are generally included in New York City's abrasive post- No Wave scene which produced
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,
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,
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, and
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. They generally used G&L brand guitars (which appear on several of the band's album covers),
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s, and Park (a budget brand made by Marshall) amplifiers. G&L owner
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was a fan of the band and later befriended Poss. Musically, the band organised their three guitarists into providing an overwhelming wall of
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and guitar noise layered atop more conventional song structures. Due to their focus on atmospheric textures, the band is often considered a peripheral member of the
shoegaze Shoegaze (originally called shoegazing and sometimes conflated with "dream pop") is a subgenre of indie and alternative rock characterized by its ethereal mixture of obscured vocals, guitar distortion and effects, feedback, and overwhelming volu ...
movement, though they had a more abrasive sound closer to that of their New York contemporaries than most of the primarily-British bands of the shoegaze genre. Like shoegaze bands such as My Bloody Valentine, Band of Susans were notorious for playing live at extremely high volumes in order to recreate the visceral impact of their studio albums. In an interview, guitarist
Robert Poss Robert Poss is an American guitarist and music producer. He was the front man and primary composer for Band of Susans between 1986 and 1996. He has also collaborated with Rhys Chatham and the band When People Were Shorter and Lived Near the Wate ...
noted the similarity between shoegaze and Band of Susan's hypnotic soundscape, saying " My Bloody Valentine have been contemporaries of ours, and we played shows with them in Europe and in the U.S. in 1989." Despite the band's experimental leanings, Poss was a big fan of
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, which would later manifest in covers of the Stones' songs "Child of the Moon" and "
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".


Live performances

Band of Susans toured the U.S. and Europe sporadically. They played with bands such as Live Skull, My Bloody Valentine,
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, Wire, Rollins Band, Smegma, Das Furlines, and Lovely. During the band's final U.S. and European tours, Jay Braun (who formed the Negatones shortly thereafter) filled in for Lonergan and Kelly Burns filled in for Ron Spitzer. Band of Susans also performed, with Rhys Chatham as a warmup "group", at "
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" on 19th Street, in the early 1980s as part of a "performance art" piece. Afterward, they performed at
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, although not with their original lineup, with the exception of Susan Stenger,
Robert Poss Robert Poss is an American guitarist and music producer. He was the front man and primary composer for Band of Susans between 1986 and 1996. He has also collaborated with Rhys Chatham and the band When People Were Shorter and Lived Near the Wate ...
, and possibly Karen Hagloff. Forgotten drummer during the 1991 European and American support tour for the band's release, "Word and the Flesh" was New Jersey based drummer, Joseph Kochan, who performed as "Joey Kaye".


Post-breakup

After the dissolution of the band in late 1996, Poss and Stenger performed with
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of
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as gilbertpossstenger; one album was released under this moniker. Stenger and Poss have also worked extensively with composer
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. Poss has concentrated on production and solo work, whilst Stenger played live with
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for a period, and worked with
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,
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and
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(
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) among others. She has an electric bass ensemble, Big Bottom, and has collaborated with choreographer Michael Clark, author
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and visual artist
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. Her 96-day musical installation, ''Soundtrack for an Exhibition'', opened at Le Musée d'Art Contemporain in Lyon, France on March 7, 2006, and includes contributions from Robert Poss, Alan Vega,
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,
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,
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,
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, and
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among others. Poss released a pair of solo albums, ''Distortion Is Truth'' and ''Crossing Casco Bay'' in 2002, has created music for choreographers Alexandra Beller, Sally Gross and Gerald Casel, and has engineered CDs by Seth Josel and Phill Niblock; he has also worked in collaboration with Ben Neill and David Dramm. In April 2009 he performed as part of Rhys Chatham's ensemble at the
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in conjunction with the exhibit "Downtown Comes Uptown: The Pictures Generation, 1974–1984".


Music videos

Music videos were released for: * "The Pursuit of Happiness" (1989) * "Now Is Now" (1991) * "Blind" (1993) * "The Last Temptation of Susan" (1993) (experimental video collage by
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)


Discography

;Studio albums * '' Hope Against Hope'' (1988) * '' Love Agenda'' (1989) * '' The Word and the Flesh'' (1991) * ''
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'' (1993) * '' Here Comes Success'' (1995) ;Extended plays * '' Blessing and Curse'' (1987) * '' The Peel Sessions'' (1992) * ''
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'' (1992) ;Compilation albums * ''
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'' (1995)


References


External links


Watch Band of Susans' four music videos

''Trouser Press'' entry



Robert Poss' 2009 appearance at a Tribute/Benefit Concert

"Stosspeng" on Phill Niblock's Touch Strings

Susan Stenger's "Soundtrack For An Exhibition" at 8 Mar - 11 Jun 06, Musée Art Contemporain Lyon, France

Albert Maysles/Kisten Nutile's film ''The Pleasure Of Stillness''. Music by Robert Poss



Frieze Magazine review of Susan Stenger's ''Soundtrack''

Composer Phill Niblock

Pitchfork review of Phill Niblock's ''G2, 44/x2'', Robert Poss and Susan Stenger, guitar

Susan Stenger

Big Bottom (Susan Stenger's electric bass ensemble)



Phill Niblock CD ''Touch Works'', engineered by Robert Poss

Phill Niblock's ''Four Full Flutes'', which features Susan Stenger

Seth Josel discography
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