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ASK Group, Inc., formerly ASK Computer Systems, Inc., was a producer of business and manufacturing software. It is best remembered for its ''Manman''
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(ERP) software and for Sandra Kurtzig, the company's founder and one of the early female pioneers in the
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. At its peak, ASK had 91 offices in 15 countries before
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acquired the company in 1994.


Beginning and growth (1972–1982)

ASK was started in 1972 by Sandra Kurtzig in
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. She left her job as a marketing specialist at
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and invested $2,000 of her savings to start the company in the apartment she shared with her HP salesman husband. At first, the firm built software for a variety of business applications. ASK was incorporated in 1974. In 1978, Kurtzig came up with ASK's most significant product, named Manman (originally "MaMa"), a contraction of ''manufacturing management''. Manman is
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(MRP)
ERP software Enterprise resource planning (ERP) is the integrated management of main business processes, often in real time and mediated by software and technology. ERP is usually referred to as a category of business management software—typically a suit ...
that runs on
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HP-3000
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s. Manman helps
manufacturing Manufacturing is the creation or production of goods with the help of equipment, labor, machines, tools, and chemical or biological processing or formulation. It is the essence of the secondary sector of the economy. The term may refer ...
companies plan materials purchases, production schedules, and other administrative functions on a scale that was previously possible only on large, costly
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s. Manman initially had a five-figure software price and was aimed at small and medium-sized manufacturers. Small companies desiring the least expensive implementation could use the software on a
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contract. Manman competed with other minicomputer- and mainframe-based MRP products, such as NCA Corporation's Maxcim and
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's
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. During the era when ''Manman'' was only running on HP-3000 systems, ''ASK'' would buy systems at a discount and resell them "with its programs for $125,000 to $300,000" as
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systems. Although ''ASK'' was initially named "standing for Arie and Sandra Kurtzig, although he is not an employee." Somewhat later, with her husband working for
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(HP); with the software being subsequently marketed both for HP's computers and those sold by
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(DEC), Kurtzig said that "A" was for ''Associates''. Manman was an enormous success and quickly came to dominate the market for manufacturing systems and software. ASK's fortunes rose as a result. The
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went
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in 1981. Two years later, Sandra Kurtzig's personal stake in the firm was worth more than $40 million.


Plateau (1983–1989)


Software Dimensions: (March 1983 - June 1984)

In March 1983 ASK made its first acquisition, purchasing a privately held software company named Software Dimensions, Inc., publisher of Accounting Plus, for $6 million. After acquiring Software Dimensions, Kurtzig renamed it ASK Micro and launched an aggressive
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program. ASK over-hired and mismanaged the sales channel for the product, angering existing sellers and ballooning the cash burn rate for the company; the product faltered. In June 1984, Kurtzig announced that she was shutting down ASK Micro, at a cost of $1 million, and auctioning off the rights to ''Accounting Plus''. ASK also failed at rescaling Manman to run on
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s. Of the company's failings in the emerging personal computer market, Kurtzig told ''
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'', "We have our fingerprints all over the murder weapon" that killed Software Dimensions. ASK never truly found its footing in the
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market, and struggled to keep its market share from being eroded by competitors who offered similar solutions on smaller platforms.


Manman: lower prices, other declines (1984-1989)

By the fall of 1984, ASK planned to offer a version of its original product, Manman, for about one-third of its previous price. Lower-priced minicomputers from Hewlett-Packard and
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(DEC), the product's two hardware platforms, made this possible. The company hoped to protect its market share with smaller companies and emergent middle-range manufacturers. However, by 1985, ASK declined as its customers reduced expenditures. Exacerbating the problem, Kurtzig and her family also began selling off large blocks of their stock holdings in the company, which triggered a shareholder lawsuit. Kurtzig also backed away from ASK's day-to-day operations. In 1984, Kurtzig named Ronald W. Branniff president of the company, and in 1985 he took over her post of chief executive officer as well. Kurtzig attributed her declining interest in the business to family pressures, along with other factors. Divorced from her husband, Kurtzig devoted more time to raising her two sons, who were aged 12 and 9 at the time. Although the company remained profitable, ASK's earnings and sales declined in 1986, falling to $5.89 million on revenues of $76 million. ASK acquired NCA Corporation for $43 million in cash in 1987 which was a significant premium for a competitor that was beating them in two out of every three deals. Despite these small advances, ASK was losing ground to its competitors. In its research and development activities, ASK began to focus nearly all of its resources on upgrading and improving existing products instead of creating new ones. Salespeople had long been bedeviled with having to sell a primitive, conversational, scrolling user interface (not long afterwards, the problem was that although not everyone knew what a relational database was, everyone wanted one.) ASK had lost its entrepreneurial edge. In the meantime, Kurtzig had spent her time traveling, writing her autobiography, and investing in other technology companies, but this proved to be unfulfilling. In mid-1989 the ASK managing board approached Kurtzig and asked her to resume an active role in the company, and she accepted their invitation. Kurtzig spearheaded ASK's purchase of Data 3 Systems for $18.7 million, a privately owned competitor to ASK. In addition to this complementary expansion, Kurtzig began to revamp the way her old company had been run, shifting organization and priorities to new products. She changed such minor, but important, details as the quality of the food and beer at the company's Friday evening celebrations in an effort to reconnect upper level management with the company's employees. As part of this effort, Kurtzig instituted 360 degree reviews (where employees review bosses), hired entrepreneurial managers, spearheaded product entry into
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and
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platforms, and opened international offices in Europe and Asia. The improvements resulted in 1989's earnings of $13.5 million.


Decline and sale (1990–1994)

In 1990, ASK purchased the
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, a declining software company that developed the
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called
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. The deal called for 30 percent of ASK to be sold to
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and
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(EDS) for a total of $60 million, which in turn enabled ASK to pay $110 million for Ingres. ASK's stockholders complained about this strange multi-way financing move. Shareholder James Lennane, who held ten percent of the company's shares, announced he would try to oust the company's
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at the next
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. Despite this, Kurtzig's deal proceeded as planned. ASK already made use of Ingres software in its own work, linking the accounting and manufacturing departments of its clients to its own database. Hewlett-Packard made the hardware upon which much of ASK's software ran, and the ASK resold Hewlett-Packard products as part of its software packages. Both Hewlett-Packard and EDS had strong histories of involvement with manufacturing businesses, and this heritage promised to open more potential markets for ASK. Although this seemed like good news, ASK had mediocre results over the next several quarters, due to a lull in business while the company tried to bring new products to market. With its new purchases, ASK had moved beyond its original scope to become a much larger, global, diversified company. The unified ASK and Ingres group had yearly revenues of $400 million. In the early 1990s, ASK concentrated on the development and introduction of new products designed to provide communication between different computer systems and programs. In 1992 the company introduced Manman/X, an update of its flagship product. Manman/x was built on the code base of a product called Triton 2.2d, from a little known Dutch company called Baan. ASK had acquired the rights to the code base and distribution in the 1990s. In 1992 ASK was restructured to better reflect the nature of its operations. The company was renamed ASK Group, Inc., and comprised three business units — ASK Computer Systems, Data 3, and Ingres. With the merger of ASK and Ingres completed, Kurtzig replaced herself as CEO in 1991, but remained non-executive chairman until 1992. Although ASK appeared to be on solid footing to face the computer industry's challenging, competitive environment, its fortunes continued to decline. ASK annual revenues reached nearly $1 billion before being acquired by Computer Associates in 1994.


ManMan product family

Manman is a family of
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(ERP) marketed for
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HP-3000 and
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(DEC)
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s. Its vendor, ''ASK Group'', founded by Sandra Kurtzig, was selling this software from, at ''ASK'''s peak, 91 offices in 15 countries. By 1994 annual sales reached nearly $1 billion, and the company was acquired by
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(CA); both the software and ''CA'' subsequently declined. The product family's name, ''Manman'', was "short for manufacturing management," Its components included: * ''Manman/AP'': an
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program. Since both HP and DEC's computers were
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systems, the entry of data was done interactively. Vendor names and supplier payables could be viewed and, if necessary, revised from a computer terminal. * ''Manman/MFG'': to help plan and track the manufacturing process. * ''Manman/OMAR'': order management/ AR. Orders were tracked by this software "until payment is received." * ''Manman/GL'':
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Some of the ideas for these application programs came from founder Kurtzig's exposure to several areas within "
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, known to be synonymous with a well-run manufacturing operation." Modules for payroll, budgeting and other analysis were also sold by ''ASK''. During ''Manman'''s early era when it was only running on HP-3000 systems, ''ASK'' would buy systems at a discount and resell them "with its programs for $125,000 to $300,000" as
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. In the mid 1980s, HP's hardware required direct connection of the terminals to the mini-computer. As a result, there was a limit to the number of terminals that can be installed. Digital Equipment added DECnet to their systems allowing for more terminals to be connected to their computers. ASK quickly created a version of their software that ran on the Digital hardware. This allowed larger companies to switch hardware platforms while continuing to use MANMAN/Mfg software suite. Seagate Technology's corporate headquarters and 4 disk drive production facilities required more user connections than the HP Systems would allow. As a result of HP's system limitations, Seagate Technology was one of the first companies to take advantage of the Digital Equipment VAX platform. Seagate became one of over 750 companies to use the MANMAN suite on VAX hardware. HP soon added networking. In the end, over 2000 companies used MANMAN/MFG on HP hardware A former employee (May 12, 2024) systems.


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