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Johnie's Broiler, originally known as Harvey's Broiler and currently operating as Bob's Big Boy Broiler, is a
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located in
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,
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. It first opened in 1958 by Harvey Ortner, a former partner in the Clock Broiler restaurants chain in the Los Angeles area. Due to its 1950s
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style, the restaurant became featured in several films and TV shows. The restaurant was then renamed Johnie's Broiler in 1968 before closing in 2001. From 2002 to 2006, the building and parking lot housed a used
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. The building was largely demolished illegally in January 2007 by its then-lease-holder without obtaining the proper permits. The restaurant was reconstructed in 2009 with the help of preservationists and other supporters and re-opened as part of the
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chain while retaining the original building's look and design.


History


Harvey's Broiler

The restaurant was founded as Harvey's Broiler, named after owner Harvey Ortner, a former partner in the Clock Broiler restaurants of
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. Ortner and his wife Minnie purchased former poultry farm property located on
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and Old River School Road in 1950. The couple hired architect Paul B. Clayton to design the Harvey's Broiler which was completed in 1958. Clayton's design incorporates
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architectural elements intended to attract customers from motorists traveling in either direction on
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. While writing about the Southern California culture, writer
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wrote in the early 1960s that "They cruise around in their cars in Harvey’s huge parking lot, boys and girls, showing each other the latest in fashions, in cars, hairdos (male and female) and clothes in the Los Angeles Teenage... and Second-Generation Teenage... modes, Teenage Paris! Harvey’s Drive-in!". Harvey's was featured in the 1961 issue of ''
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'', where it was described this way: Harvey's Broiler was an overnight success and thousands of people came from all over the United States to experience the phenomenon of "The Broiler".


Johnie's Broiler

The restaurant was renamed Johnie's Broiler in 1968 and additional signage was installed in 1969 after the sale of the restaurant to an interim owner by the name of Johnson (hence the reason for the single "n" in "Johnie's"). Apparently this interim owner couldn't meet the terms of the agreement and the sign had already been changed from Harvey's to Johnie's. Drive-In curb service ceased in 1970. Ortner executed a lease-to-own agreement with Christos Smyrniotis in 1970. The future owner had been employed as an assistant chef at the Broiler. Johnie's Broiler was a Harvey Ortner Enterprise listed on his business card as late as 1983 and according to an interview done by Burly Burlile in June of that year. The "Fat Boy" mascot, modeled after Beanie from the cartoon show ''
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'' (not the Bob's ''Big Boy'' character), animated incandescent yellow bulbs on the roof edges and the "OPEN 24 HOURS" lettering, were added in 1969 and Downey's Broiler became a sister store to Johnie's Coffee Shop Wilshire (originally a Simon's Drive-In site and currently employing its former 1955 Romeo's Times Square construction an
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design). This location appears to have been owned by the Johnsons who could not satisfy their agreement for the Downey location with the Ortners.


Closure and illegal demolition

On New Year's Eve 2001, Johnie's Broiler ended operation and early in 2002 new tenants gutted part of the interior and converted the restaurant and parking area into a used car dealership.Alternate Link
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A local grassroots campaign to preserve the drive-in's exterior ensued, led by Adriene Biondo, John Eng and Alan Leib of the
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's Modern Committee, and Analisa Ridenour-Hungerford of the Friends of Johnie's advocacy group. In early 2002, the State of California's Historic Resources Commission unanimously voted to add Johnie's Broiler to the State's Register of Historical Places. Approval of the property's owner was also required for inclusion in the registry but Smyrniotis objected on economic grounds. Nonetheless, the Broiler's "eligible" status offered the same protections as if it were actually listed. In August 2006, owner Smyrniotis signed a lease with a new tenant, Ardas Yanik. Although the City of Downey rejected a demolition permit in November of that year, Yanik proceeded with plans to remove the structure anyway that following year. On Sunday, January 7, 2007, authorities halted demolition of Johnie's Broiler after a large amount of destruction had already been done. Bulldozers began their work around 3 p.m. even though the city still had not issued any demolition permits for the property. ''
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'' reporter Valerie Reitman credited Helen Burns, who had been part of the 2002 drive to designate the restaurant as a state historic landmark, with noticing the demolition around 5 p.m. The original kitchen and the back of the coffee shop had been demolished by the time Burns arrived. She phoned the police and then began phoning other preservationists and car buffs, urging them to notify the police as well. Police arrived on the scene within a half-hour and stopped the illegal demolition. "People could have been injured or killed; the electrical was live," noted Downey City Councilman Mario Guerra. By the time police halted the demolition, much of the main structure had already been taken down, leaving the large main sign, front facade and car canopy structures still remaining upright. Yanik reportedly "pleaded no contest to three misdemeanor charges stemming from the demolition and had his lease forfeited." Friends of Johnie's joined with fans, neighbors, classic car clubs, cruisers and preservationists to rally for Johnie's and coordinated the sale of T-shirts with events, cruises and kept attention focused on the demolished building. Following its illegal demolition, preservationists and other supporters regrouped. These included the Mod-Com (Adriene Biondo, Chairperson), Friends of Johnie's (Analisa Ridenour, President) and the Coalition to Save and Rebuild Harvey's Broiler (Kevin Preciado, Leader).


Reconstruction as Bob's Big Boy

After the demolition was halted on January 7, 2007, the city council of Downey supported the efforts of citizens to preserve and restore the building. In April 2008, Jim Louder, owner of the
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restaurant in Torrance, California, entered into a long-term lease agreement with Smyrniotis, the land owner. The restaurant was rebuilt with the help of Downey's Redevelopment Agency and the Downey Historical Society. Construction was completed and the restaurant opened as Bob's Big Boy Broiler in October 2009. The restaurant was rebuilt as a Bob's Big Boy Broiler which incorporated the surviving architectural elements of the old structure into the new restaurant that is based upon original blueprints. Since opening under the new name, the restaurant has continued to host car shows and be used in TV and films. In January 2021, a
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version of Bob's Big Boy Broiler, paired with a figurine of the Big Boy mascot, was released as a part of the popular
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series of pop culture collectibles. In September 2024, a Bob's Big Boy statue outside the restaurant was severely damaged in a high speed car crash.


Cruisers

During the Broiler's heyday, hot rods and " Kustom Kars" would cruise a route of popular
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drive-in restaurants. One of the cruise circuits began in
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at Grisinger's (now George's) drive-in, continuing on to Holly's in Hawthorne on to the Wich Stand on Slauson and Overhill, and ending in Downey at the Broiler. As many as 3,000 young people took part in the ritual on some nights. In 1986, Lee McCullough requested and received funding and started up Harvey's Cruise Nite based on the success of an earlier cruise originated by Street Rodder magazine contributing editor and Harvey's alumni Burlie Burlile, in tribute to the Broiler's heyday of late 1950s and 1960s cruising. DJ Randy Roubal played oldies and hundreds of hot rods and vintage cars from the 1930s to the early 1970s attended the cruise nite on Wednesday evenings. The McCullough Cruise Nite continued until a July 1990 dispute with the property owner. Cruisers returned in 1991 and car clubs like the Auto Butchers and Sultans continued the tradition until 1994, when enthusiasm waned. Much filming was done at the site and in October 1999, Harvey's-Johnie's was lit up once again. Rods & Customs lined its parking lot and craft services cooked up "Fat Boys" in the vein of "Chubby the Champ" the Broiler's original double-deck hamburger. Johnie's was featured on the December 1993 cover of ''Rod & Custom'' magazine.


Movies and television

Bob's Big Boy Broiler has been featured in several popular movies and TV shows because of its authentic 1950s look. Some of the films and TV shows that it was featured in are: *
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'', a 2002 motion picture directed by Mark Romanek, used Johnie's as the coffee shop where the Robin Williams' character has his meals. The illuminated outdoor neon sign is seen at the beginning of the first coffee shop scene. * '' The Beach Boys: An American Family'', a 2000 ABC-TV movie, used Johnie's as an authentic location depicting life in 1960s Los Angeles, complete with vintage hot rods and roadsters. * ''
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'' Johnie's posed as a bus station for a 1999 episode * ''
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s 1988 episode "Rescue Me" * ''
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'' (1995) * '' The Game'' (1997) * '' Mission: Impossible 2'' * '' Bounce'', in the scene where Gwyneth Paltrow and Ben Affleck exit the restaurant * Rock group
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's music video "For You" was partially filmed at Johnie's Broiler. The video includes interior and exterior shots of the original diner. * ''
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See also

* Johnie's Coffee Shop, another establishment featured in a number of Hollywood movies * The Quality Cafe, also featured in Hollywood movies


References


External links

*
Some movies that were filmed here



Saveharveysbroiler.com

LA Conservancy.org

Roadsidepeek.com
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