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John Sutton, 3rd Baron Dudley ( –1553), commonly known as Lord Quondam, was an English nobleman.


Early life

John Sutton was born in 1494, at
Dudley Castle Dudley Castle is a ruined fortification in the town of Dudley, West Midlands, England. Originally a wooden motte and bailey castle built soon after the Norman Conquest, it was rebuilt as a stone fortification during the twelfth century but sub ...
, Worcestershire, the eldest son and heir of Sir
Edward Sutton, 2nd Baron Dudley Edward Sutton, 2nd Baron Dudley, (c. 1460 – 31 January 1531) was an English nobleman elected as Knight of the Garter (KG) in the beginning of King Henry VIII's reign. He was chamberlain to Princess Mary (later Queen Mary I) from 1525 to 1528. ...
and his wife Cicely ( Willoughby) Sutton. His mother was a daughter of Sir William Willoughby and Joan Strangeways, and granddaughter of
Katherine Neville, Duchess of Norfolk Katherine Neville (c. 1397 – late summer 1483) was a medieval English noblewoman, the eldest daughter of Ralph Neville, 1st Earl of Westmorland, and his second wife Joan Beaufort. Through her mother, she was a granddaughter of John of Gaunt. ...
. John Sutton had several younger brothers: Thomas, William, Arthur, Geoffery and George. Among his sisters were Hon. Eleanor Sutton (wife of
Charles Somerset, 1st Earl of Worcester Charles Somerset, 1st Earl of Worcester, KG (c. 146015 March 1526) was an English nobleman and politician. He was the legitimised bastard son of Henry Beaufort, 3rd Duke of Somerset by his mistress Joan Hill. Origins He was born in about ...
, and
Leonard Grey, 1st Viscount Grane Leonard Grey, Lord Deputy of Ireland (1479/149228 July 1541), known as Lord Leonard Grey prior to 1536, served as Lord Deputy of Ireland from 1536 to 1540. Family Leonard Grey was a younger son of Thomas Grey, 1st Marquess of Dorset and Cecily ...
), Hon. Jane Sutton (wife of Sir Thomas Fiennes), Hon. Margaret Sutton (wife of John Grey, 2nd
Baron Grey of Powis The title Baron Grey of Powis (1482–1552) was created for the great-grandson of Joan Charleton (c. 1400–1425), co-heiress and 6th Lady of Powis (Powys) and her husband, Sir John Grey, 1st Earl of Tankerville (1384–1421) after the death o ...
).


Career

John was knighted on 13 October 1513, and succeeded his father
Edward Sutton, 2nd Baron Dudley Edward Sutton, 2nd Baron Dudley, (c. 1460 – 31 January 1531) was an English nobleman elected as Knight of the Garter (KG) in the beginning of King Henry VIII's reign. He was chamberlain to Princess Mary (later Queen Mary I) from 1525 to 1528. ...
as
Baron Dudley Baron Dudley is a title in the Peerage of England. It was created circa 1440 for John Sutton, a soldier who served as Lord Lieutenant of Ireland. The title descended in the Sutton family until the 17th century when Frances Sutton, the heir appa ...
in 1532. He immediately began to sell his patrimony, including half of
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. He was never summoned to Parliament. John Sutton acquired the nickname "Lord Quondam" ('Lord Has-been' or 'Lord Formerly') when he allowed his estate, including the castle of Dudley, to fall into the possession of his cousin,
John Dudley, Duke of Northumberland John Dudley, 1st Duke of Northumberland (1504Loades 2008 – 22 August 1553) was an English general, admiral, and politician, who led the government of the young King Edward VI from 1550 until 1553, and unsuccessfully tried to install Lady J ...
. Northumberland resided at
Dudley Castle Dudley Castle is a ruined fortification in the town of Dudley, West Midlands, England. Originally a wooden motte and bailey castle built soon after the Norman Conquest, it was rebuilt as a stone fortification during the twelfth century but sub ...
and added new and magnificent structures to the old fortress. Dugdale wrote: "It is reported by credible tradition of this John Lord Dudley, that being a man of weak understanding, whereby he had exposed himself to some wants, and so became entangled in the usurer’s bonds, John Dudley, then Viscount Lisle and Earl of Warwick (afterwards Duke of Northumberland), thirsting after Dudley Castle, the chief seat of the family, made those money merchants his instruments to work him out of it, which by some mortgage being at length effected, this poor lord became exposed to the charity of his friends for a subsistence, and spending the remainder of his life in visits amongst them, was commonly called the Lord Quondam." There is much evidence in the ''Letters and Papers of the Reign of Henry VIII'' to suggest that Warwick and
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between them colluded to entangle Lord Dudley before the fact, and did not simply take advantage of him afterwards, as suggested by Dugdale's sources. Cromwell had long been friends with Cecily Grey and her family and bought out Baron Dudley's lands to help save her family from ruin.


Personal life

By 30 October 1501, he was betrothed to Lady Cecily Grey, a daughter of
Thomas Grey, 1st Marquess of Dorset Thomas Grey, 1st Marquess of Dorset, 1st Earl of Huntingdon, 7th Baron Ferrers of Groby, (145520 September 1501) was an English nobleman, courtier and the eldest son of Elizabeth Woodville and her first husband Sir John Grey of Groby. Her seco ...
, by Cecily Bonville, his wife, ''
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'' Baroness Harington and Baroness Bonville. They subsequently married and Lord Dudley and Lady Cecily were the parents of the following children: *
Edward Sutton, 4th Baron Dudley Edward Sutton, 4th Baron Dudley (circa 1515 – 12 July 1586). The oldest son and heir of John Sutton, 3rd Baron Dudley. He was an English nobleman and soldier. Contemporary sources also refer to him as ''Sir Edward Dudley''. Life He served in I ...
(–1586), who married Katherine Brydges, the daughter of
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, in 1556. After her death in 1566, he married Lady Jane Stanley, a daughter of
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, in 1567. After her death, he married Mary Howard, the daughter of William Howard, 1st Baron Howard in 1571. * Hon. Sir Henry Sutton Dudley (1517–1568), a diplomat who was a conspirator of the Tudor period; he married Anne Ashton, daughter of Sir Christopher Ashton. * Hon. George Sutton, a soldier at Calais. * Hon. Maud Sutton, who married Ralph Josceline. * Hon. Margaret Sutton, who married William Guibon. * Hon. Thomas Sutton (1539–1574), who married and had issue. * Hon. Dorothy Sutton. * Hon. Elizabeth Sutton. * Hon. Robert Sutton. After losing
Dudley Castle Dudley Castle is a ruined fortification in the town of Dudley, West Midlands, England. Originally a wooden motte and bailey castle built soon after the Norman Conquest, it was rebuilt as a stone fortification during the twelfth century but sub ...
in 1537, John Sutton, who retained the title Lord Dudley, decided upon a city residence at Tothill Street in Westminster. He died in Middlesex and was buried on 18 September 1553 in St Margaret's, Westminster, London; his wife was buried there on 28 April 1554.Mosley, Charles, editor. ''Burke's Peerage, Baronetage & Knightage, 107th edition, 3 volumes.''
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, U.S.A.:
Burke's Peerage Burke's Peerage Limited is a British genealogical publisher founded in 1826, when the Irish genealogist John Burke began releasing books devoted to the ancestry and heraldry of the peerage, baronetage, knightage and landed gentry of Great ...
(Genealogical Books) Ltd, 2003, volume 1, page 1192.
It is a perhaps not insignificant detail to add that his cousin and nemesis
John Dudley, Duke of Northumberland John Dudley, 1st Duke of Northumberland (1504Loades 2008 – 22 August 1553) was an English general, admiral, and politician, who led the government of the young King Edward VI from 1550 until 1553, and unsuccessfully tried to install Lady J ...
was executed on 22 August the same year, 1553. After Northumberland's execution, Dudley Castle was forfeited to the crown, and in 1555 was restored by Queen Mary to Lord Dudley's eldest son,
Edward Sutton, 4th Baron Dudley Edward Sutton, 4th Baron Dudley (circa 1515 – 12 July 1586). The oldest son and heir of John Sutton, 3rd Baron Dudley. He was an English nobleman and soldier. Contemporary sources also refer to him as ''Sir Edward Dudley''. Life He served in I ...
.G.E. Cokayne; with Vicary Gibbs, H.A. Doubleday, Geoffrey H. White, Duncan Warrand and Lord Howard de Walden, editors, ''The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant, Extinct or Dormant, new ed., 13 volumes in 14'' (1910-1959; reprint in 6 volumes,
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, U.K.:
Alan Sutton Publishing The History Press is a British publishing company specialising in the publication of titles devoted to local and specialist history. It claims to be the United Kingdom's largest independent publisher in this field, publishing approximately 300 ...
, 2000), volume IV, page 481.


References

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3 Burials at St Margaret's, Westminster