John II, Count Of Soissons
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John II (died 1270/72), also known as Je(h)an de Nesle and by the
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''le Bon et le Bègue'' ("the Good and the Stammerer"), was the tenth
Count of Soissons This is a list of those who bore the title Count of Soissons () and ruled Soissons and its ''civitas'' or diocese as a county in the Middle Ages. The title continued in use into modern times, but without ties to the actual Soissonnais. Carolingia ...
, succeeding his father Ralph the Good, in 1235. He was the son of his father's second wife, Yolande. By marriage he also became
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and Lord of Amboise. He was well-connected with the trouvères: his younger brother Raoul was one and he received the dedication of a song by Pierrekin de la Coupele. He was also a cousin by marriage of the historian
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. He is not to be confused with John II of Nesle, the burggrave of
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. John's first marriage was to Mary (died c. 1241), the heiress of Roger du Thour et de Chimay and his wife Agnes. John and Mary confirmed donations to the
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in May 1234, where he signed as "John of Soissons, knight, firstborn of the count of Soissons, lord of Thour and Chimay". She left him a son, John III, who would succeed him. John's second wife was Matilda (died 12 May 1256), the daughter and eldest surviving child of Sulpice III of Amboise and Isabella, who had inherited the county of Chartres from her father,
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. Matilda was the widow of Richard II, the viscount of Beaumont-sur-Sarthe. On Isabella's death in 1246, Chartres thus passed to Matilda, John, and the house of Nesle. John and his first wife, Mary, had six children: *
John III, Count of Soissons John III (died before 8 October 1286), son of John II, Count of Soissons, and Marie de Chimay. Count of Soissons and Seigneur of Chimay. John inherited the countship of Soissons upon his father’s death in 1272. John married Marguerite de Montfo ...
* Raoul de Nesle (died 1271 in Tunis) * Adèle de Nesle (died before 1252), married to Jan van Oudenarde, son of Arnoud IV, lord of Oudenaarde, and his wife Alix de Roso * Yolande de Nesle (died 1242), married to Hugues II, lord of Rumigny * Eléonore de Nesle (died after 1280), married to Renaud,
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* Isabelle de Nesle, married to Nicolas II, lord of Barbançon By his geographical proximity to
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, John was a close member of the royal circle. In 1230 he supported Blanche of Castile as
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for the young
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, in opposition to
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. In 1231 he began a controversy over property with the clerical leadership of Soissons. After imprisoning several ecclesiastics, Louis IX and the
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, Henry of Dreux, intervened to obtain an agreement between the feuding parties. In 1242 John supported Louis against the rebellious
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and the invading
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in a conflict that became known as the "
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". John also joined the
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in 1248. On the day of the Battle of Mansurah (8 February 1250) he commented to Jean de Joinville that "we'll speak about this day again, you and me, in the ladies' chamber".Smith, Caroline (2006),
Crusading in the Age of Joinville
'' Ashgate Publishing Ltd., p. 9.
He was captured by the
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in April 1250, but was soon freed, after which he returned home. In 1265 John joined the army of
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that was heading to Italy to conquer the
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. He was in charge of the escort of Charles' wife,
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, until they arrived at
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. In 1266 he fought in the
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on the winning side. In 1270 John joined the
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in
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and died shortly after his return.


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*{{cite journal , journal=Francia , title=The Nesles of Picardy in the Service of the Last Capetians , first=Quentin , last=Griffiths , volume=20 , year=1993 , issue=1 , pages=69–78 1270s deaths Counts of Soissons Christians of the Seventh Crusade Christians of the Eighth Crusade 13th-century counts in Europe Year of birth unknown