Jean (II) Juvénal des Ursins (; 1388–1473), the son of the royal jurist and provost of the merchants of Paris Jean Juvénal, was a French cleric and

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. He is the author of several legal treatises and clerical publications and the ''Histoire de Charles VI, Roy de France'' is attributed to him. His works serve as some of the main sources for information relating to the Armagnac-Burgundian Civil War and the final phase of the

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. He served as Bishop of Beauvais from 1433 to 1444,

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from 1444 to 1449, and

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from 1449 to his death in 1473. It was in this latter capacity that he oversaw the rehabilitation of

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between 1452 and 1456. He is sometimes credited as the source of the

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, "War without fire is like

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s without mustard", concerning

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's firing of

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in 1421. However, other sources claim the king himself is the real source of the quote, and Juvenal cited him.

References

Sources

* P. S. Lewis, ''Ecrits Politiques De Jean Juvenal Des Ursins'', Societe de l'histoire de France, C. Klincksieck, (2-252-02894-7) * Famiglietti, Richard C. "Juvenal Des Ursins". in Kibler, William (ed). ''Medieval France: An Encyclopedia''.

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A picture of his crypt in Notre Dame
15th-century French writers Bishops of Beauvais Bishops of Laon Archbishops of Reims 15th-century French Roman Catholic bishops People of the Hundred Years' War 1388 births 1473 deaths French male writers 15th-century peers of France {{france-RC-bishop-stub