The Info List - LNER Class J17

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The GER Class G58
GER Class G58
Class J17) was a class of 0-6-0
steam tender locomotives designed by James Holden for the Great Eastern Railway
Great Eastern Railway
in England. The class consisted partly of new locomotives built from 1905 to 1911 and partly of rebuilds of the earlier GER Class F48
GER Class F48
built from 1900 to 1903. The rebuilding started under GER auspices from 1921 and was continued by the London and North Eastern Railway
London and North Eastern Railway
(LNER) after grouping in 1923.


1 History

1.1 Superheating 1.2 Blastpipes

ownership 3 BR ownership 4 Preservation 5 Modelling 6 References 7 External links

History[edit] The earlier GER Class F48
GER Class F48
were built between 1900 and 1903 and had round-top boilers; there were sixty of them. The G58 had Belpaire fireboxes, like those fitted to the F48 No. 1189, and later fitted to the Class D56 Claud Hamilton 4-4-0s.[1] A further thirty of the Belpaire boiler type followed to form Class G58.

Table of orders and numbers (Class G58)[2]

Year Order No. Quantity GER Nos. LNER
Nos. 1946 Nos. Notes

1905 G58 10 1210–1219 8210–8219 5560–5569

1905–06 S59 10 1220–1229 8220–8229 5570–5579

1910–11 T67 10 1230–1239 8230–8239 5580–5589

Superheating[edit] The class was superheated between 1915 and 1932. From 1921, all the round-top boilers were replaced by the Belpaire type and the majority were of the superheated type. Blastpipes[edit] At first Macallan blastpipes were fitted, but later the Stone's variable blastpipe was substituted. Plain blastpipes were substituted between 1924 and 1929.[3] LNER
ownership[edit] On the LNER, those retaining round-top fireboxes were classified J16, and those built, or rebuilt, with Belpaire fireboxes were classified J17.[4] The J16 category ceased to exist in 1932.[1] BR ownership[edit] All the J16s had been rebuilt as J17s by 1932 and 89 J17s passed to British Railways
British Railways
(BR) in 1948.[5] BR numbers were 65500–65589, of which 65500–59 were the rebuilds from F48 (J16).[6] One number (65550) was blank, because locomotive no. 8200 had been destroyed in a German V-2 rocket
V-2 rocket
explosion at Stratford in November 1944.[1][7] The second locomotive was withdrawn in 1953, and the last in 1962.[8] Preservation[edit] GER no. 1217 ( LNER
8217, 5567, BR 65567) was withdrawn in 1962 and acquired privately for preservation.[1] It is owned by the National Railway Museum, York, as part of the UK National Collection, but is on loan to the Barrow Hill Roundhouse and Railway Centre. Modelling[edit] A 4 mm scale kit is available from PDK Models [9] References[edit]

^ a b c d Aldrich 1969, p. 71. ^ Aldrich 1969, p. 70. ^ Fry 1966, p. 102. ^ Fry 1966, pp. 99, 100. ^ Fry 1966, p. 104. ^ Fry 1966, pp. 105–106. ^ Fry 1966, p. 100. ^ Aldrich 1969, pp. 141–143. ^ PDK Price List page 2

Aldrich, C. Langley (1969). The Locomotives of the Great Eastern Railway 1862–1962 (7th ed.). Wickford, Essex: C. Langley Aldrich. OCLC 30278831.  Baxter, Bertram (2012). Baxter, David; Mitchell, Peter, eds. British Locomotive Catalogue 1825–1923, Volume 6: Great Eastern Railway, North British Railway, Great North of Scotland Railway, Midland & Great Northern Joint Railway, remaining companies in the LNER
group. Southampton: Kestrel Railway Books. ISBN 978-1-905505-26-5.  Fry, E. V., ed. (September 1966). Locomotives of the L.N.E.R., Part 5: Tender Engines—Classes J1 to J37. Kenilworth: RCTS. ISBN 0-901115-12-6.  Ian Allan ABC of British Railways
British Railways
Locomotives, 1948 edition, part 4, page 41

External links[edit]

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Class J17.

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Encyclopedia F48 and G58 Class 0-6-0
Great Eastern Railway
Great Eastern Railway

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Great Eastern Railway
Great Eastern Railway

R. Sinclair (1862–1866)


S. W. Johnson (1866–1876)

No. 1 125 201 202 417 204 109 477 T7 200 134 C8

Wm. Adams (1873–1878)

209 61 K9 230 527

M. Bromley (1878–1881)

E10 245 140 M12 552

T. W. Worsdell (1881–1885)

G14 Y14 G15 M15 G16

J. Holden (1885–1907)

T18 T19 127 E22 R24 D27 T26 N31 C32 P43 S44 S46 F48 C53 A55 D56 S56 G58

S. D. Holden (1907–1912)

Y65 G69 S69 E72

A. J. Hill (1912–1922)

C72 B74 L77 T77 D81 H88

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London and North Eastern Railway
London and North Eastern Railway

Pre-grouping railway designs

Great Central

A5 B1/B18 B2/B19 B3 B4 B5 B6 B7 B8 B9 C4 C5 C13 C14 D5 D6 D7 D8 D9 D10 D11 D12 E2 E3 E8 F1 F2 G3 J8 J9 J10 J11 J12 J13 J58 J59 J60 J61 J62 J63 L1/L3 M1 N4 N5 N6 O4 O5 Q4 S1 X4 Y2

Great Eastern

B12 D13 D14 D15 D16 E4 F3 F4 F5 F6 F7 G4 J14 J15 J16 J17 J18 J19 J20 J65 J66 J67 J68 J69 J70 N7 Y4 Y5 Y6 Z4/J92

Great North of Scotland

D38 D39 D40 D41 D42 D43 D44 D45 D46 D47 D48 G10 J90 J91 Z4 Z5

Great Northern

A1 C1 C2 C12 D1 D2 D3 D4 E1 G1 G2 J1 J2 J3 J4 J5 J6 J7 J50 J51 J52 J53 J54 J55 J56 J57 K1 K2 K3 N1 N2 O1 O2 Q1 Q2 Q3 R1

North British

C10 C11 C15 C16 D25 D26 D27 D28 D29 D30 D31 D32 D33 D34 D35 D36 D50 D51 E7 G7 G8 G9 J31 J32 J33 J34 J35 J36 J37 J81 J82 J83 J84 J85 J86 J88 N14 N15 Y9 Y10

North Eastern

A2 A6 A7 B13 B14 B15 B16 C6 C7 C8 D17/1 D17/2 D18 D19 D20 D21 D22 D23 E5 E6 F8 G5 G6 H1 J21 J22 J24 J25 J26 J27 J71 J72 J73 J74 J76 J77 J78 J79 N8 N9 N10 Q5 Q6 Q7 T1 X1 X2 X3 Y7 Y8 EB1 EE1 EF1 ES1

North Eastern (ex Hull & Barnsley)

D24 J23 J28 J75 J80 N11 N12 N13 Q10


Gresley (1923–1941)

A1 A3 A4 A8 B17 D49 J38 J39 J50 K4 P1 P2 U1 V1 V2 V3 V4 W1 EM1

Thompson (1941–1946)

A1 A2/1 A2/2 A2/3 B1 B2 K1 K5 L1 O1 Q1

Peppercorn (1946–1947)

A1 A2 K1

Other designs

D52 D53 D54 H2 J64 J94 L2 M2 O6 O7 Y1 Y3 Y10 Y11 J45/DES1 DES2

Proposed designs

P10 2-8-2T (Nov 1929) B 4-6-0 (Nov 1936)  ? 4-8-2 (1939) Q 0-8-0 (June 1930) D 4-4-0 (1943)  ? 4-8-4 (Feb 1946)  ? 4-8-2 (Feb 1946) K 2-6-0 (Aug 1947)

see also British Railways
British Railways
steam locomotives GWR locomotives LMS locomotives Southern Railway