Elizabeth Cheney (1422–1473)
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Elizabeth Cheney (April 1422 – 25 September 1473) was a member of the
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, who, by her two marriages, was the great-grandmother of
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, and
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, three of the wives of King
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, thus making her great-great-grandmother to
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, the son of Henry VIII and Jane Seymour, and
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, the daughter of Henry VIII and Anne Boleyn. Her first husband was Sir
Frederick Tilney Sir Frederick Tilney (died 1445) Lord of Ashwellthorpe, Norfolk, and Boston, Lincolnshire, England, was the husband of Elizabeth Cheney, Lady Say and father of Elizabeth Tilney, Countess of Surrey. He is notably the great-grandfather of Anne Bo ...
, and her second husband was Sir
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, Speaker of the
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. She bore a total of eight children from both marriages.


Family

Born in
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,
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in April 1422, she was the eldest child of Lawrence Cheney (c. 1396 – 1461),
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, and his wife, Elizabeth ( Cokayne).Cokayne, George Edward, ''Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant, Extinct, Or Dormant, Volume 6'', 189
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/ref> She had three younger sisters, Anne, wife of John Appleyard; Mary, wife of John Allington; Catherine, wife of Henry Barley, and one brother, Sir John Cheney who married Elizabeth Rempston, by whom he had issue. She had two half-brothers by her mother's first marriage to Sir Philip Butler. Her paternal grandparents were Sir William Cheney and Katherine Pabenham, and her maternal grandparents were Sir John Cokayne, Chief Baron of the Exchequer and
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, the daughter of
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and Eleanor Le Strange of Blackmere.


Marriages and issue

On an unknown date, Elizabeth Cheney married her first husband Sir Frederick Tilney, of Ashwellthorpe,
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, and
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. He was the son of Sir Philip Tilney and Isabel Thorpe. They made their principal residence at Ashwellthorpe Manor. The couple had one daughter: * Elizabeth Tilney (before 1445 – 4 April 1497), married firstly in about 1466, Sir Humphrey Bourchier, by whom she had three children; and secondly on 30 April 1472,
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, who later became the 2nd Duke of Norfolk, by whom she had nine children. These children included
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, Elizabeth Howard, mother of Anne Boleyn, and
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, father of Catherine Howard. Sir Frederick Tilney died in 1445, leaving their young daughter Elizabeth as heiress to his estates. Shortly before 1 December 1446, Elizabeth Cheney married secondly Sir John Say, of Broxbourne, Hertfordshire, Speaker of the
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, and a member of the household of King Henry VI. He was a member of the embassy, led by
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, which was sent to France in 1444 to negotiate with King Charles VII for the marriage between King Henry and
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.John Smith Roskell, ''Parliament and Politics in Late Medieval England'', volume 2, pp. 155–56, 170–71, Google Books, accessed 9 September 2009 Her father settled land worth fifty marks clear per annum upon the couple and their issue before
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, 1453. They made their home at Broxbourne, Hertfordshire. Sir John Say and Elizabeth had three sons and four daughters: * Sir William Say (1452- 1529), of Baas (in Broxbourne), Bedwell (in Essendon), Bennington, Little Berkhampstead, and Sawbridgeworth, Hertfordshire, Lawford, Essex, Market Overton, Rutland, etc., Burgess (M.P.) for Plympton, Knight of the Shire for Hertfordshire, Sheriff of Somerset and Dorset, 1478–9, Sheriff of Essex and Hertfordshire, 1482–3, Justice of the Peace for Hertfordshire, 1486–1506, and, in right of his 1st wife, of East Lydford, Radstock, Spaxton, Wellesleigh, and Wheathill,
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, and, in right of his 2nd wife, of Wormingford Hall (in Wormingford),
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, Great Munden, Hertfordshire, etc. He married (1st) before 18 November 1472 (date of letters of attorney) Genevieve Hill, daughter/heiress of John Hill, of Spaxton, Somerset. She was still alive in 1478. He married (2nd) shortly after 18 April 1480 Elizabeth Fray, widow of Sir Thomas Waldegrave, by whom he had two daughters, Mary Say and Elizabeth Say. Mary, the eldest daughter married Henry Bourchier, 2nd Earl of Essex and 6th
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, by whom she had one daughter,
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. * Thomas Say, of Liston Hall, Essex. * asterLeonard Say, clerk, Rector of Spaxton, Somerset. See Testamenta Eboracensia, 4 (Surtees Soc. 53) (1869): 86–88 (will of Leonard Say, clerk). *
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(died 1478/1494), married
Henry Wentworth Sir Henry Wentworth of Nettlestead, Suffolk, KB (born c. 1448 – died between 17 August 1499 and 27 February 1501), ''de jure'' 4th Baron le Despencer, was the grandfather of Henry VIII's third wife, Jane Seymour, and the great-grandfather of ...
, K.B., of Nettlestead, Suffolk, Goxhill, Lincolnshire, Parlington and Pontefract, Yorkshire, and of London, Esquire of the Household, Knight of the Body, Sheriff of Norfolk and Suffolk, 1481–82, Sheriff of Yorkshire, 1489–90, 1492, Knight of the Shire for Yorkshire, 1491–92, by whom she had issue, including
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, mother of Jane Seymour. * Mary Say, married Sir Philip Calthorpe, Knt., by whom she had issue. * Margaret Say, married Thomas Sampson, Esq. * Katherine Say, married Thomas Bassingbourne.


Royal descendants


Death

On 25 September 1473, aged 51, Elizabeth Cheney died. She was buried in the church at Broxbourne. Following her death, John Say remarried to Agnes Danvers. He died five years later on 12 April 1478. Sometime after 1478, Elizabeth's eldest son, Sir William Say, married his second wife, Elizabeth Fray, a daughter of his stepmother Agnes, by her first husband, Sir John Fray (1419–1461), Chief Baron of the Exchequer.


Sources

* John Smith Roskell, ''Parliament and Politics in Late Medieval England, Vol. 2'', Google Books, accessed 9 September 2009


References

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