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Venedic is a naturalistic constructed language, created by the Dutch translator
Jan van Steenbergen Johannes Hendrik "Jan" van Steenbergen (, born June 3, 1970) is a Dutch translator and interpreter. He is known for being the author of several constructed languages, notably Interslavic and Wenedyk. He was born in Hoorn, where he spent most o ...
(who also co-created the international auxiliary language Interslavic). It is used in the fictional ''Republic of the Two Crowns'', based on the Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth, in the alternate timeline of
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. Officially, Venedic is a descendant of
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with a strong Slavic admixture, based on the premise that the Roman Empire incorporated the ancestors of the
Poles Poles,, ; singular masculine: ''Polak'', singular feminine: ''Polka'' or Polish people, are a West Slavic nation and ethnic group, who share a common history, culture, the Polish language and are identified with the country of Poland in Ce ...
in their territory. Less officially, it tries to show what Polish would have looked like if it had been a Romance instead of a Slavic language. On the Internet, it is well-recognized as an example of the
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genre, much like
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and Breathanach. The idea for the language was inspired by such languages as Brithenig and Breathanach, languages that bear a similar relationship to the Celtic languages as Venedic does to Polish. The language itself is based entirely on (
Vulgar Vulgar is a Latin word meaning "common" or "pertaining to ordinary people." Language * Vulgar or common language, the vernacular speech of a region or a people * Language use characterised by vulgarity, see Vulgarism and Other uses *A vul ...
) Latin and Polish: all phonological, morphological, and syntactic changes that made Polish develop from Common Slavic are applied to Vulgar Latin. As a result, vocabulary and morphology are predominantly Romance in nature, whereas phonology, orthography and syntax are essentially the same as in Polish. Venedic uses the modern standard Polish orthography, including (for instance) for and for . Venedic plays a role in the
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of Ill Bethisad, where it is one of the official languages of th
Republic of the Two Crowns
In 2005 Venedic underwent a major revision due to a better understanding of Latin and Slavic sound and grammar changes. In the process, the author was assisted by the Polish linguist Grzegorz Jagodziński. The dictionary on the WWW page linked below contains over 4000 entries. The language has acquired some media attention in Poland, including several online news articles and an article in the monthly '.


Spelling and pronunciation

Venedic uses the Polish alphabet, which consists of the following 32 letters : :A Ą B C Ć D E Ę F G H I J K L Ł M N Ń O Ó P R S Ś T U W Y Z Ź Ż Also, there are seven digraphs, representing five phonemes (ch being identical with h, and rz with ż): :Ch Cz Dz Dź Dż Rz Sz Pronunciation is exactly as in Polish. Stress almost always falls on the penultimate
syllable A syllable is a unit of organization for a sequence of speech sounds typically made up of a syllable nucleus (most often a vowel) with optional initial and final margins (typically, consonants). Syllables are often considered the phonological "bu ...
. A
preposition Prepositions and postpositions, together called adpositions (or broadly, in traditional grammar, simply prepositions), are a class of words used to express spatial or temporal relations (''in'', ''under'', ''towards'', ''before'') or mark various ...
and a pronoun are generally treated as one word, and therefore, when the pronoun has only one syllable, the preposition is stressed. (In theory, the construction of Venedic enables relatively easy construction of other "Slavo-Romance" languages. The Romance "mirror" for Czech, for example, is called "Šležan"

another for Slovak language, Slovak, although somewhat looser than the other two as it uses a partially Hungarian orthography, is called "Slevan"


Nominals

Venedic does not have article (grammar), articles. This is a feature that distinguishes Venedic from all natural Romance languages. The reason for this is that
Vulgar Latin Vulgar Latin, also known as Popular or Colloquial Latin, is the range of non-formal Register (sociolinguistics), registers of Latin spoken from the Crisis of the Roman Republic, Late Roman Republic onward. Through time, Vulgar Latin would evolve ...
showed only a rudimentary tendency toward the formation of articles, whereas they are absent in Polish and most other Slavic languages. Nouns, pronouns and adjectives can have three
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(masculine, feminine, neuter), two numbers (singular, plural), and three cases: * the ''direct case'': used for both the
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and the direct object of a sentence. In the sentence: ''Miej poterz'' leże ''libier'' "My father reads a book", ''Miej poterz'' "my father" and ''libier'' "a book" are both in the direct case. * the ''
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'': used to indicate possession, for example: siedź ''potrze'' "''my father's'' chair", rzejna ''Anglie'' "the queen ''of England''". * the '' dative case'': used to indicate the indirect object of a sentence, for example: Da ''mi'' ił libier "Give ''me'' that book", Da ''mi'' łu "Give it ''to me''". Venedic also has a '' vocative case''. In most cases it has the same form as the direct case, but there are exceptions: O potrze! "Oh father!" In earlier version of Venedic, it used to have nominative and accusative cases, but later merged to form the direct case. Nouns can be subdivided into four declensions. They are similar to the declension system in Latin: * The ''first declension'' are all words on -a, the vast majority of which are
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; * the ''second declension'' are mostly masculine and neuter words ending with a consonant. It is a mixture of the second and fourth declension in Latin; * the ''third declension'' are mostly feminine words ending with a soft consonant; * the ''fourth declension'' are words on -ej, it matches the Latin fifth declension. However, the author treated the nouns with the 4th declension ending as irregular, see also the sections below.


Declension endings

''Hard'' and ''soft'' in this context are suffixes that are decided by final consonants, either hard (remaining consonants, like ''-n'', ''-c'', or ''-d'') or soft (
postalveolar Postalveolar or post-alveolar consonants are consonants articulated with the tongue near or touching the ''back'' of the alveolar ridge. Articulation is farther back in the mouth than the alveolar consonants, which are at the ridge itself, but no ...
s or palatal-like sounds, like ''-l'', ''-ń'', or ''-rz''). Endings in ''-ia-'', ''-ie-'', and ''-i-'' are always affected by regular changes below:


Irregular nouns

There is a number of irregular nouns. Not just completely irregular nouns on the table below, some nouns have less predictable oblique stems (the rest stem other than nominative singular), as in above ''moszkieł'', gen. ''moszklu''. However, nouns with the last vowel ''ó'' regularly shorten to ''o'' (''sórz'', ''sorze'').


Adjectives

Adjectives always agree in gender, number and case with the noun they modify. They can be placed both before and after it. Unlike nouns, the adjective declension are always consistent and there is no distinctions in declension classes.


Further derivatives of adjectives

The comparatives and superlatives are formed by the suffixes ''-ierzy'' and ''-ieśmy'', respectively, to the adjective's stem. However, the adjectives below have irregular comparative (second row) and superlative (third row) forms: * ''bony'' "good", ''mielerzy'', ''oćmy'' * ''mały'' "bad", ''piejerzy'', ''pieśmy'' * ''grędzy'' "big", ''mojerzy'', ''mośmy'' * ''łonięcy'' "far", ''łonierzy'', ''łonieśmy'' * ''pieskły'' "small", ''mnierzy'', ''mnieśmy'' * ''wiekły'' "old", ''wieszczerzy'', ''wieszcześmy'' * ''jałty'' "high", ''sprzerzy'', ''sprześmy'' * ''mołt'' "many/much", ''pły'' "more", ''płerześmy'' "most" Adverbial forms are either done by removing the ''-y''/''-i'' from the root or adding the suffix ''-mięć'' into the root (''kłary'', ''kłar''/''kłaramięć'' "warmly"). There are no rules which forms are preferred, but the latter usually expresses how something is done. For the longer form, ''-amięć'' is used after hard consonants while ''-iemięć'' used after soft consonants. Adjectives in ''-ły'' use the suffix ''-lemięć'' (i.e. ''-ł-'' + ''-iemięć''), except for the adjectives ''biały'', ''mały'', ''miły'', ''siegły'' which are always suffixed with the former (''biały'' → ''białamieć''). The adjective ''bony'' "good" has an irregular adverbial derivation: ''bień''. The comparatives and superlatives can also have adverbial forms, by substituting ''-ierzy'' and ''-ieśmy'' with ''-iu'' and ''-ieśmie''. Verbal participles always remove their last vowels. The predicative forms are the same as masculine and neuter direct singular forms, except that sometimes the suffix ''-y''/''-i'' is removed, but this predicative forming is somewhat archaic and the resulting forms should not be confused with adverbs.


Pronouns

Unlike nouns, adjectives and other pronouns, personal pronouns do not use the direct case, but preserve the distinction between the
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and accusative instead. They are displayed in the following chart:


Verbs

Verbs are inflected for person, number, mood and tense. Because Latin and
Proto-Slavonic Proto-Slavic (abbreviated PSl., PS.; also called Common Slavic or Common Slavonic) is the unattested, reconstructed proto-language of all Slavic languages. It represents Slavic speech approximately from the 2nd millennium B.C. through the 6th ...
had virtually identical person/number inflections, Venedic and Polish do also. Venedic verbs have the following moods and tenses: :'' infinitive'' – jemar "to love" :'' present tense'' – jemu "I love, I am loving" :'' imperfect'' – jemawa "I loved" :''
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'' – jemie " I have loved" :''
future tense In grammar, a future tense (abbreviated ) is a verb form that generally marks the event described by the verb as not having happened yet, but expected to happen in the future. An example of a future tense form is the French ''aimera'', meaning ...
( imperfective)'' – joru jemar "I will love, I will be loving" :''
future tense In grammar, a future tense (abbreviated ) is a verb form that generally marks the event described by the verb as not having happened yet, but expected to happen in the future. An example of a future tense form is the French ''aimera'', meaning ...
( perfective)'' – jemaru "I will have loved" :'' conditional mood'' – jemarsi "I would love, I would have loved" :'' imperative mood'' – jem "love!" :''
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'' – jemęć "loving" :'' perfect passive participle'' – jematy "beloved"


Regular verbs


Word list

Venedic vocabulary as published on the internet consists of over 4000 words. Because of how it was developed from Vulgar Latin, Venedic words are closest to Italian, but with phonologic differences from Italian which may be compared to those distinguishing Portuguese from Spanish. The following charts of 30 shows what Venedic looks like in comparison to a number of other Romance languages; note that unlike
Brithenig Brithenig, or also known as Comroig, is an invented language, or constructed language ("conlang"). It was created as a hobby in 1996 by Andrew Smith from New Zealand, who also invented the alternate history of Ill Bethisad to "explain" it. Off ...
, where one-quarter of the words resembled Welsh words, only four Venedic words (not counting ''szkoła'', borrowed into Polish from Latin) resemble Polish words, due to the Slavic languages' greater distance from the Romance languages compared to the Celtic languages:


Example text

The ''
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'' in Venedic:
''Potrze nostry, kwały jesz en czałór, sąciewkaty si twej numię.''
''Owień twej rzeń.''
''Foca si twa włątać, komód en czału szyk i sur cierze.''
''Da nów odzej nostry pań kocidzany.''
''I dziemieć nów nostrze dziewta, komód i nu dziemiećmy swór dziewtorzór.''
''I nie endycz nosz en ciętaceń, uta liwra nosz dzie mału.''
''Nąk twie są rzeń i pociestać i głurza, o siąprz. Amen.''
Article 1 of the '' Universal Declaration of Human Rights'' in Venedic: :''Tuci ludzie noszczę sie liwrzy i jekwali z rześpiece świej dzińtacie i swór drzecór. Li są dotaci ku rocenie i koszczęce i dziewię ocar piara wyniałtru en jenie frotrzeńtacie.'' Article 1 of the ''Universal Declaration of Human Rights'' in English: :''All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights. They are endowed with reason and conscience and should act towards one another in a spirit of brotherhood.''


Similar languages

In the Ill Bethisad universe, there are two other languages which are related to Venedic: Slevan, which is spoken in that universe's counterpart of Slovakia; and Šležan, or Silesian, spoken in Silesia. Šležan mirrors Czechbr>
in much the same way Venedic does Polish, whereas Slevan, despite being located in Slovakia, is more similar to Hungarian language, Hungarian and Croatian in its orthography. (The Romance "mirror" of Slovak is a dialect of Slevan spoken in Moravia called Moravľaňec.) (As if in compensation, Croatian in Ill Bethisad is forced to be noticeably different from
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* * * Old Serbian (disambiguat ...
by being made to resemble the now-virtually-missing Czech and Slovak

) Additionally, in the famous '' The Adventures of Tintin'' series, the fictional language
Syldavian Syldavian is a fictional West Germanic language created by Hergé as the national language of Syldavia, a fictional Balkan kingdom that serves as a major setting in many of ''The Adventures of Tintin'' stories. Hergé modeled the language on ...
may be thought of as the Germanic counterpart of Venedic, showing what Polish might have looked like if it were a Germanic and not a Slavic language. The nearly extinct Wymysorys language provides another real-life example of this. Ill Bethisad also has such a "Slavo-Germanic" language: Bohemian, spoken in that universe's Czech Republic, developed by amateur Czech linguist Jan Havliš.


Citations


Notes


References


Bibliography

*Tilman Berger
Vom Erfinden Slavischer Sprachen
in: M. Okuka & U. Schweier, eds., ''Germano-Slavistische Beiträge. Festschrift für P. Rehder zum 65. Geburtstag'', München 2004, pp. 19–28. Cites Venedic as an example of Slavic-based extrapolated conlangs. *Michał Foerster

in: ''Esencja'', no. 07/2008 (LXXIX), August–September 2008. *Dorota Gut

("New Language"), in: ''Wiedza i Życie'', February 2004. *Jakub Kowalski
Wymyślone języki
on: ''Relaz.pl'', 2 March 2007. * Stefan Michael Newerkla, "Auf den Spuren des ř in den slawischen Sprachen und rund um den Globus", in: Johannes Reinhart & Tilmann Reuther, eds., ''Ethnoslavica: Festschrift für Herrn Univ. Prof. Dr. Gerhard Neweklowsky zum 65. Geburtstag; Beiträge des internationalen Symposiums des Instituts für Slawistik der Universität Klagenfurt in Zusammenarbeit mit dem Institut für Slawistik der Universität Wien, Klagenfurt, 7.-8. April 2006'', München-Wien: Otto Sagner, 2006, p. 212. *Paul J.J. Payack, ''A Million Words and Counting: How Global English Is Rewriting the World'', 2008, p. 193.
Romance glossary
A list of common words in all Romance languages, including Venedic and Brithenig.


External links


Wenedyk
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