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''Thought 'Ya Knew'' is the second solo studio album by American singer-songwriter CeCe Peniston, released on January 10, 1994, by A&M Records, and on February 10 in Japan. For this album, Peniston once again collaborated with Chicago-based producer Steve "Silk" Hurley, along with other producers
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(better recognized as duo Soulshock & Karlin) from Denmark, David Morales, Sir Jinx, and on one track ("Forever in My Heart") also with the multiple Grammy Award-nominee Brian McKnight. Deciding not to get pigeonholed into the dance genre, Peniston recorded several ballads for the album, trying to move into an R&B direction. Unlike its predecessor '' Finally'', Peniston's second album was, therefore, a calculated mixture of pop ballads and R&B beats, though incorporating also other genres, such as jazz (" I'm in the Mood"),
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"). The album received generally mixed reviews from music critics, and commercially, it proved to be a moderate success. Debuting on February 12, 1994, at number 102 on the ''Billboard'' 200, the album reached its peak a week later at number ninety-six, while spending nineteen weeks on the US chart in total. Overseas, the album entered the UK Albums Chart at number thirty-one, but charted for only two weeks there. Other territories included
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(at number thirty-two),
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(at number sixty-six), Netherlands (at number sixty-nine), and Germany (at number ninety-two). Four official singles were released from the album, three of which entered the ''Billboard'' Hot 100, as well as the UK Singles Chart. All of them became successful on the dance chart, bringing Peniston two additional number one hits on the US
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. In Japan, the album was shortly followed by '' Remix Collection'', which featured alternate versions of songs issued on singles. It was reissued in Japan on September 11, 1996. The album was not accompanied by a worldwide tour.


Critical reception

''Thought 'Ya Knew'' received mainly mixed reviews. In terms of artistic achievement, dancefloor potential or chart performance, the album did not match the success of Peniston's debut album, '' Finally''. Jose F. Promis from AllMusic, however, blamed the record label A&M for marketing the artist to an R&B audience, which he called the "big mistake". Giving the album three (out of five) stars, he highlighted especially "
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" as the song closer in spirit to Peniston's early dance hits, but he admitted that by that time of the single's release its "steam had worn off". Both critics, Martin Johnson from ''
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'' and Johnny Huston from '' Entertainment Weekly'' agreed that the album's low points occurred on its ballads and that Peniston faltered on slower numbers. (Johnson also added that even Toni Braxton, who redefined the urban contemporary ballad, "would have trouble breathing life into them"). While Huston noticed
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and stressed the pungent lower registers of the singer's voice (on "
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"). '' People'' magazine found the album's problem in Peniston's big-time pop success and her new need to be seen more serious than just a dance-music artist. Calling ballads ''"the ballads from hell"'', the magazine reproached that all the slow stuff did was focus on Peniston's vocal limitations.


Chart performance

On February 5, 1994, the album entered at number thirty-one (its peak) in the UK Albums Chart, spending two weeks on the chart. Followed by the Oricon list on February 10, Peniston received her first and her only album chart appearance to date in Japan, at number sixty-six (two charting weeks in total) After two weeks since its release, the album entered the US ''Billboard'' 200 at number one-hundred-two on February 12, 1994. Peaking its top the following week, at number ninety-six on February 19 (nineteen weeks in the chart). On the component, US Top R&B/Hip-Hop Albums chart, the album climbed to number twenty (being present for thirty-four weeks in the chart. Later on, the album would be classified as the seventy-first best R&B selling set of 1994.) In Dutch
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, the record started its five weeks long run on February 19, topping its third week at number sixty-nine. In addition, the album cracked the
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on February 20, peaking on March 6 at number thirty-two (three weeks in the chart). And on February 28 also the German Media Control Charts, reaching at number ninety-two (with three weeks in the chart).


Track listing

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Credits and personnel

* CeCe Peniston – lead vocal, backing vocals, vocal arrangement, executive production * Damon Jones – executive production * Manny Lehman – executive production * Mark Dubuclet – production, mixing, drum programming, programming, keyboards, bass, multi instruments * Steve "Silk" Hurley – production, arranging, editing, mixing * David Morales – production, arranging, percussion, mixing * Richard Wolf – production, guitar, drum programming, keyboards * Steven Nikolas – vocal arrangement * Brendon Sibley – vocal arrangement * Soulshock & Karlin – production, mixing * Sir Jinx – production *
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– production * Camus Maré Celli – production * Andrea Martin – backing vocals, talking *
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– backing vocals * Kymberli Armstrong – backing vocals * Myron Glasper – backing vocals * Jackie Gusheyk – backing vocals * Sharon Pass – backing vocals * Chantay Savage – backing vocals * Katreese Barnes – backing vocals * Sherree Ford-Payne – backing vocals * Faith Wade – choir, chorus * Niomisha Wilson – choir, chorus * Brian McKnight – backing vocals, multi instruments, production * Rodney Miller – guitar * David Fiuczynski – guitar * Michael McDonald – guitar * Kamaal – bass * Greg Mull – engineering, mixing * Daryll Dobson – engineering, mixing * Scott Ahaus – engineering, remixing * Doug Michael – engineering * David Sussman – engineering * Steve Weeder – engineering *
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– engineering * John Fundingsland – engineering * Keith Barrios – engineering * Anna Wheaton – engineering * Chris Wood – engineering * Brian Kinkel – engineering * Brad Aldredge – engineering * Victor McCoy – engineering assistance * Brian Young – engineering assistance * Daniel Beroff – engineering assistance * Craig Burbidge – mixing *
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– mixing * Doug DeAngelis – mixing * Ken Kessie – mixing * Kevin Crouse – mixing assistance * Eric Flickinger – mixing assistance * Eddie Sexton – mixing assistance * Devin Foutz – mixing assistance * Christian Delatour – mixing assistance *
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– keyboards * James Wirrick – keyboards * Fernando Harkless – saxophone * David Wills – drums * Alec Shantzis – programming * Satoshi Tomiie – programming * Terry Burrus – programming * Greg Lawson – drum programming *
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– conducting *
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– vibraphone * C-N-A – multi instruments * Colleen Donahue-Reynolds – production coordination *
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– photography


Charts


Weekly charts


Year-end charts


References

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External links

* {{Authority control 1994 albums CeCe Peniston albums A&M Records albums Albums produced by Steve "Silk" Hurley