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''Second Thoughts'' is the second studio album by New Zealand
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band
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. It was recorded in London with
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's guitarist
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producing the album. Four of the songs on the album were reworked versions of songs from their 1975 debut album, '' Mental Notes''. Two other songs on the album had been first recorded during the ''Mental Notes'' sessions, but left off and re-recorded for ''Second Thoughts''. There were two new songs, both written by
Phil Judd Philip Raymond Judd (born 20 March 1953) is a New Zealand singer-songwriter known for being one of the founders of the bands Split Enz and The Swingers. Split Enz In 1972, Judd and Tim Finn founded the arty folk band Split Enz. In its early d ...
, and a re-recording of an early Judd/Finn composition ("129"), which for the ''Second Thoughts'' version, was renamed "Matinee Idyll". The album was called ''Mental Notes'' when released outside Australasia and also featured a reworked version of the ''Mental Notes'' cover (for comparison se
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. Wally Wilkinson's image was replaced with that of Robert Gillies, and some band members are shown with newer haircuts:
Phil Judd Philip Raymond Judd (born 20 March 1953) is a New Zealand singer-songwriter known for being one of the founders of the bands Split Enz and The Swingers. Split Enz In 1972, Judd and Tim Finn founded the arty folk band Split Enz. In its early d ...
was now bald, and
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had his sides shaved.
Tim Finn Brian Timothy Finn (born 25 June 1952) is a New Zealand singer and musician. His musical career includes forming 1970s and 1980s New Zealand rock group Split Enz, a number of solo albums, temporary membership in his brother Neil's band Crowde ...
, Robert Gillies and
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have said that the band felt the songs needed to be redone. But both
Phil Judd Philip Raymond Judd (born 20 March 1953) is a New Zealand singer-songwriter known for being one of the founders of the bands Split Enz and The Swingers. Split Enz In 1972, Judd and Tim Finn founded the arty folk band Split Enz. In its early d ...
and
Noel Crombie Geoffrey Noel Crombie (born 17 April 1953) is a New Zealand percussionist and former member of the band Split Enz. He fulfilled multiple roles including costume and hair designer, singer, album cover designer, and music video director. Prior to ...
have said that the re-recording of the ''Mental Notes'' tracks was a waste of time. On his MySpace forum, Phil has said that
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was obsessed with making the songs sound better, while he had new songs that he wanted to record.


Track listing

:* New arrangement of a song that first appeared on ''Mental Notes'' :† Recorded during the ''Mental Notes'' sessions but not included in it, and re-recorded for ''Second Thoughts''


Personnel

Split Enz *
Tim Finn Brian Timothy Finn (born 25 June 1952) is a New Zealand singer and musician. His musical career includes forming 1970s and 1980s New Zealand rock group Split Enz, a number of solo albums, temporary membership in his brother Neil's band Crowde ...
– vocals, piano on "Stranger Than Fiction" *
Phil Judd Philip Raymond Judd (born 20 March 1953) is a New Zealand singer-songwriter known for being one of the founders of the bands Split Enz and The Swingers. Split Enz In 1972, Judd and Tim Finn founded the arty folk band Split Enz. In its early d ...
– vocals, guitars,
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* Jonathan Michael Chunn – bass, piano on "Titus" *
Noel Crombie Geoffrey Noel Crombie (born 17 April 1953) is a New Zealand percussionist and former member of the band Split Enz. He fulfilled multiple roles including costume and hair designer, singer, album cover designer, and music video director. Prior to ...
– percussion *
Emlyn Crowther Paul Emlyn Crowther (born 2 October 1949 in Dunedin, New Zealand) is the former drummer of Split Enz who performed with the band from July 1974 to November 1976. Before joining the Enz, Crowther played trumpet in an air training corp band but ...
– drums * Robert Gillies –
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, trumpet * Edward Rayner – keyboards Additional personnel *
Miles Golding Miles Golding (born in Sydney in 1951) is a classical violinist, and an original member of Split Enz. Golding played on the band's first single "For You" in 1973, leaving them shortly after to pursue further training in London. Golding has pla ...
– violin on "Stranger Than Fiction" and "Matinee Idyll" * Ian Sharp – cello on "Matinee Idyll" *
Rhett Davies Rhett Davies (born 1949 in London) is an English record producer and engineer. Davies' father was trumpet player Ray Davies (no relation to Ray Davies of The Kinks). Davies became a studio engineer at Island Records studios in the early 1970s, a ...
, Guy Bidmead – Recording engineers * Phil Manzanera – producer * Rhett Davies – Mixing engineer * John Prew – Front cover photograph *
Split Enz Split Enz were a New Zealand rock band formed in Auckland in 1972 by Tim Finn and Phil Judd and had a variety of other members during its existence. Originally started as a folk-oriented group with quirky art rock stylings, the band built a ...
– Back snaps * Special Thanks To Dave Russell and Wally Wilkinson


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References

{{Authority control Split Enz albums 1976 albums Chrysalis Records albums Albums produced by Phil Manzanera Mushroom Records albums