Saer De Quincy, 1st Earl Of Winchester
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Saer de Quincy, 1st Earl of Winchester (c. 11553 November 1219) was one of the leaders of the baronial rebellion against
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, and a major figure in both the kingdoms of
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in the decades around the turn of the twelfth and thirteenth centuries.


Scottish Upbringing

Although he was an Anglo-Norman, Saer de Quincy's father,
Robert de Quincy Sir Robert de Quincy ( 1140 – c. 1197), Justiciar of Lothian, was a 12th-century English and Scottish noble. Life Quincy was a son of Saer de Quincy and Matilda de Senlis. Robert was granted the castle of Forfar and a toft in Haddington by ...
, had married and held important lordships in the Scottish kingdom of his cousin King
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. His mother, Orabilis, was the heiress of the lordship of
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and through her Robert became lord over lands in
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). Saer's own rise to prominence in England came partly through his marriage to Margaret, the younger sister of Robert de Beaumont, Earl of Leicester. Earl Robert died in 1204, and left Margaret as co-heiress to the vast earldom along with her elder sister. The estate was split in half, and after the final division was ratified in 1207, de Quincy was made
Earl of Winchester Earl of Winchester was a title that was created three times in the Peerage of England during the Middle Ages. The first was Saer de Quincy, who received the earldom in 1207/8 after his wife inherited half of the lands of the Beaumont earls of Le ...
.CP p.749


Earl of Winchester

Following his marriage, Winchester became a prominent military and diplomatic figure in England. There is no evidence of any close alliance with King
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, however, and his rise to importance was probably due to his newly acquired magnate status and the family connections that underpinned it. Saer seems to have developed a close personal relationship with his cousin,
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(died 1235). In 1203, they served as co-commanders of the garrison at the major fortress of Vaudreuil in
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. They surrendered the castle without a fight to
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, fatally weakening the English position in northern France. Although popular opinion seems to have blamed them for the capitulation, a royal writ is extant stating that the castle was surrendered at King John's command, and both Winchester and Fitzwalter endured personal humiliation and heavy ransoms at the hands of the French. In Scotland, he was perhaps more successful. In 1211 to 1212, the Earl of Winchester commanded an imposing retinue of a hundred knights and a hundred serjeants in William the Lion's campaign against the
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rebels, a force which some historians have suggested may have been the mercenary force from
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lent to the campaign by John.


Magna Carta

In 1215, when the baronial rebellion broke out, Robert Fitzwalter became the military commander, and the Earl of Winchester joined him, acting as one of the chief authors of Magna Carta and negotiators with John; both cousins were among the 25 guarantors of the
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. De Quincy fought against John in the troubles that followed the sealing of the Charter, and, again with Fitzwalter, travelled to France to invite Prince Louis of France to take the English throne. He and Fitzwalter were subsequently among the most committed and prominent supporters of Louis's candidature for the kingship, against both John and the infant Henry III.


The Fifth Crusade

When military defeat cleared the way for Henry III to take the throne, de Quincy went on crusade, perhaps in fulfilment of an earlier vow. In 1219 he left to join the
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, then besieging
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. While in the east, he fell sick and died. He was buried in
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, the capital of the
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, rather than in Egypt, and his heart was brought back and interred at
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near
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, a house endowed by his wife's family.


Family

The family of de Quincy had arrived in England after the
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, and took their name from
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in the Arrondissement of Béthune; the personal name "Saer" was used by them over several generations. Both names are variously spelt in primary sources and older modern works, the first name being sometimes rendered ''Saher'' or ''Seer'', and the surname as ''Quency'' or ''Quenci''. The first recorded Saer de Quincy (known to historians as "Saer I") was lord of the manor of
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in
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in the earlier twelfth century, and second husband of
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, stepdaughter of King
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by Maud of Northumbria. This marriage produced two sons, Saer II and
Robert de Quincy Sir Robert de Quincy ( 1140 – c. 1197), Justiciar of Lothian, was a 12th-century English and Scottish noble. Life Quincy was a son of Saer de Quincy and Matilda de Senlis. Robert was granted the castle of Forfar and a toft in Haddington by ...
. It was Robert, the younger son, who was the father of the Saer de Quincy who eventually became Earl of Winchester. By her first husband
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, Matilda was also the paternal grandmother of Earl Saer's close ally,
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. Robert de Quincy seems to have inherited no English lands from his father, and pursued a knightly career in Scotland, where he is recorded from around 1160 as a close companion of his cousin, King
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. By 1170 he had married Orabilis, heiress of the Scottish lordship of
Leuchars Leuchars (pronounced or ; gd, Luachar "rushes") is a small town and parish near the north-east coast of Fife in Scotland. The civil parish has a population of 5,754 (in 2011) Census of Scotland 2011, Table KS101SC – Usually Resident Populat ...
and, through her, he became lord of an extensive complex of estates north of the border which included lands in
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,
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and
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. Saer de Quincy, the son of Robert de Quincy and Orabilis of Leuchars, was raised largely in Scotland. His absence from English records for the first decades of his life has led some modern historians and genealogists to confuse him with his uncle, Saer II, who took part in the rebellion of
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in 1173, when the future Earl of Winchester can have been no more than a toddler. Saer II's line ended without direct heirs, and his nephew and namesake would eventually inherit his estate, uniting his primary Scottish holdings with the family's Northamptonshire patrimony, and possibly some lands in France.


Issue

Sometime between 1188 and 1193 de Quincy married Margaret, youngest daughter of
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. By his wife Margaret de Beaumont, Earl Saer had: *Lora, who married Sir
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, sister and co-heiress of
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. *
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, who succeeded his father as earl of Winchester (though he did not take formal possession of the earldom until after his mother's death). * (second son of that name; died 1257), who married
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, daughter of the Welsh prince
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. *Hawise, who married
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. *John de Quincy *Saher de Quincy


References


Sources

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Background reading

*"Winchester", in ''
The Complete Peerage ''The Complete Peerage'' (full title: ''The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom Extant, Extinct, or Dormant''; first edition by George Edward Cokayne, Clarenceux King of Arms; 2nd edition revis ...
'', 2nd ed., ed. G.E.C. et al., Vol.12ii. pp. 745–751 *Sidney Painter, "The House of Quency, 1136-1264", ''Medievalia et Humanistica'', 11 (1957) 3–9; reprinted in his book ''Feudalism and Liberty'' *Grant G. Simpson, "An Anglo-Scottish Baron of the Thirteenth century: the Acts of Roger de Quincy Earl of Winchester and Constable of Scotland" (Unpublished PhD Thesis, Edinburgh 1963). *Frederick Lewis Weis, ''Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America Before 1700'' (7th Edition, 1992,), 58–60.


External links


Medieval Lands Project on Saher de Quincy
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