Sub Sub were an

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act from

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composed of

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and twin brothers

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and

Jez Williams Jeremy Francis "Jez" Williams (born 18 February 1970) is the guitarist/songwriter of Doves. He was born in Manchester, England, and is the twin brother of bandmate Andy and the son of noted modernist architect Desmond Williams. Before their ...

. The threesome met at school in 1985 and became regulars at

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while composing their own material together. They had an underground 12"

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("Space Face" in 1991) and moderate commercial success in the early 1990s on

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's label

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, including the single "

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" (featuring guest vocalist

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) which reached No. 3 on the

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. The trio's only album, ''Full Fathom Five'', was released in September 1994. After a fire destroyed their

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on Blossom Street in the

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area of

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on the Williams twins' birthday in 1996, they started anew as the more

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-oriented act

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in 1998. An unreleased collection of tracks meant to be featured on the band's second album was issued in 1998 as ''Delta Tapes''.

Discography

Albums

*''Full Fathom Five'' (

, ROB 30; September 1994) # "Coast" # "Angel" (featuring Nina Henchion) # "Valium Jazz" # "Southern Trees" (featuring Gill Jackson) # "Inside of This" # "Ain't No Love (Ain't No Use)" (featuring

) # "Flute Track" # "Swamp" # "Respect" (featuring Nina Henchion) # "Past" *''Delta Tapes'' (

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; Cortex Records, February 1998) # "Crunch" # "This Time I'm Not Wrong" (featuring Bernard Sumner) # "Lost in Watts" # "Jaggernath" # "Firesuite" # "Smoking Beagles" (featuring Tricky) # "Clear Blue Water" # "Heads Will Roll" # "Past"

Singles and EPs

* "Space Face" (January 1991), Ten Records * "Space Face" (Todd Terry Remixes) (January 1991), Ten Records * ''Coast EP'' (June 1992), Rob's Records * "

" (March 1993), Rob's Records * "Ain't No Love (Ain't No Use)" (On Remixes) (March 1993), Rob's Records * "Respect" (February 1994), Rob's Records * "Angel" (August 1994), Rob's Records * "Southern Trees" (January 1995), Rob's Records * "Smoking Beagles" (December 1996), Rob's Records * "This Time I'm Not Wrong" (August 1997), Rob's Records Chart positions

References

External links

Complete Sub Sub discography at Discogs.com

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