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''Somewhere at the Bottom of the River Between Vega and Altair'' is the debut studio album by American
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band
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. Supported by three release shows, it was released on November 11, 2008, alongside ''
Here, Hear II. ''Here, Hear II.'' is a 7" EP by La Dispute and the second instalment in the ''Here, Hear'' series, it was released on November 11, 2008 along with their debut full length, ''Somewhere At the Bottom of the River Between Vega and Altair'' through ...
'' through
No Sleep Records No Sleep Records is an American independent record label in Huntington Beach, California. They were founded by Chris Hansen in 2006 and have released records by artists including Balance and Composure, La Dispute (band), La Dispute, and The Wonde ...
on both CD and vinyl. The album's title is derived from an Asian folktale, which the album's lyrics loosely follow. The album received positive reviews by notable critics, and it remains as a legacy in the
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scene.


Recording

La Dispute had spent the year prior to the release of the album writing and recording. They recorded the album in
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at StudiOtte with Joel and Troy Otte and had finished the recording by July 2008.


Themes and styles

The album evades categorization, containing elements of
post-hardcore Post-hardcore is a punk rock music genre that maintains the aggression and intensity of hardcore punk but emphasizes a greater degree of creative expression. It was initially inspired by post-punk and noise rock. Like post-punk, the term has been ...
,
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,
metalcore Metalcore (also known as metallic hardcore) is a fusion music genre that combines elements of extreme metal and hardcore punk. As with other styles blending metal and hardcore, such as crust punk and grindcore, metalcore is noted for its use of ...
,
post-rock Post-rock is a form of experimental rock characterized by a focus on exploring textures and timbre over traditional rock song structures, chords, or riffs. Post-rock artists are often instrumental, typically combining rock instrumentation with ...
,
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and
emo Emo is a rock music genre characterized by emotional, often confessional lyrics. It emerged as a style of and hardcore punk from the Washington D.C. hardcore punk scene, where it was known as emotional hardcore or emocore and pioneered b ...
. The album's style is characterised by different features, including dub-influenced bass drums and versatile vocals from Jordan Dreyer, who changes frequently, ranging from shouted
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styled vocals and screams, to spoken word portions and intentional use of off-key singing. Lyrically, the album features many themes of emotional anguish and is considered ultra-emotional; its emotions range though pain, rage, and anger and deals with loss considerably. The album recounts the Asian folk tale of
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, a story of how a prince and a princess are separated after marriage by a river which they are not allowed to cross. Prior to the release of this album, the story was told on the fourth track from La Dispute's second EP, ''
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'' However, when vocalist Jordan Dreyer has been asked in interviews about the lyrical concept of the album, he has stated that although it does contain thematic constants it does not actually tell a story and is more autobiographical and the folk tale was used as more of a "jumping-off point" for similar personal struggles. The real-life connotations of the record's lyrics are that of two divorces of people related to Dreyer. The first song on the album, "Such Small Hands", is a spoken word track which builds "to seemingly uncontrollable levels". Drummer Brad Vander Lugt commented on its surprising popularity, saying: “We cannot figure it out! It’s just an intro to the record, I have no idea why people have clung to it so much... It’s funny, we don’t even count it as a song!” "Bury Your Flame" is seen as "a perfect fusion of
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, post-rock and hardcore".


Release

"Said the King of the River" was posted on the band's Myspace on October 9, 2008. The album was made available for streaming in November 2008, and released a day later through No Sleep records, a record label to which La Dispute had only signed a few months prior. To promote the release of the album, the band played three release shows in their home state of Michigan: November 8 at Skelletones, November 14 at the UAW Retirees Hall in
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, and November 22 at the
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in
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. They played a handful of Midwestern shows to close out 2008. They opened 2009 with a two-month US tour. In July 2009, they toured Australia with To the North as the main support act, while various local bands opened each date. In September and October 2009, the band supported
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on their headlining US tour. In December 2009 and January 2010, the band went on a US tour with
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. In April and May 2010, they supported
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on their cross-country US tour, and then appeared at Bled Fest.


Reception

The album is a popular release of
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as it has received ten pressings on vinyl for a total of 8,280 copies. All eight pressings combined is a total of 6400 sales of the album on vinyl alone. In 2012, British publication ''
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'' added La Dispute's debut album into their ''101 Modern Classics'', placed at number 53. They considered the album more of a classic than
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's '' Follow The Leader'' and
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's ''
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''. Stating that "their debut album was an emotional trip through scratchy punk, dissonant hardcore and broken poetry; strength, though, lies in its uniqueness." "The Last Lost Continent" appeared on a best-of emo songs list by ''
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''.


10th anniversary reissue

In August 2018, the band announced that they would be releasing an updated version of ''Somewhere at the Bottom of the River Between Vega and Altair'', featuring re-amped versions of the original guitar and bass tracks (engineered by ''Rooms of the Hous''e co-producer
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). It was mixed by Dave Schiffman and mastered by
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''.'' The reissued album was released on November 9, 2018.


Track listing


Personnel

La Dispute *Jordan Dreyer – lead vocals, lyrics, percussion *Brad Vander Lugt – drums, keyboards, percussion, backing vocals *Chad Sterenberg – guitar, backing vocals *Kevin Whittemore – guitar, backing vocals, lap steel guitar (track 9) *Adam Vass – bass guitar, additional guitars, backing vocals Additional personnel *Adam Kool – additional composition (tracks 1, 2, 6, 13); additional guitar (tracks 1, 13) *Kim Rosen – mastering *Joel Otte – mixing,
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*Troy Otte – audio engineer, backing vocalist *Nick Vander Lugt – backing vocalist *Nick Satinover – artwork illustrator


References

{{Authority control 2008 debut albums La Dispute (band) albums No Sleep Records albums