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Roger the Poitevin (Roger de Poitou) was born in
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in the mid-1060s and died before 1140. He was an
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aristocrat, possessing large holdings in both
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and through his marriage in
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. He was the third son of
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and
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. The appellation "the Poitevin" was for his marriage to an heiress from
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. Roger acquired a great lordship in England, with lands in
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. The principal part of the Lordship was in what was then called ''inter Mersam et Ripam'', that is, "between the
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and the Ribble" and is now divided between Lancashire, Merseyside, and Greater Manchester. After 1090, he also assumed the title 1st
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. Before 1086, he had married Almodis, daughter of Count Aldebert II of La Marche in Poitou, and sister and presumptive heiress of count
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who was childless and unmarried.


Roger's lordship extends beyond the Ribble as far as Cumberland

Around 1091, Roger's brother-in-law Boso died, but Roger was apparently preoccupied with Norman and English affairs, and his wife's uncle Odo became count of La Marche. In 1092 Roger acquired a large part of what is now north Lancashire. These grants gave Roger effective control of all the lands north of the River Ribble to the
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, which formed a natural border between the secure Norman lands in England and the strongly contested Scottish frontier lands in
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. Due to long established lines of communication across
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, Roger also assumed authority over the regions of
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and
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; these remained a part of Lancashire until as recently as 1974. The expansion of Roger's lands followed his support of King William II Rufus's invasion of Cumbria in AD1092, where
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ruled, possibly as a vassal of Scottish King
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. Dolfin was driven out and the Anglo-Scottish border was established north of
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. Roger also acquired the great
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of Eye centered in
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.


1088 and after

In 1088, he led a military force with
Alan Rufus Alan Rufus, alternatively Alanus Rufus (Latin), Alan ar Rouz ( Breton), Alain le Roux ( French) or Alan the Red (c. 1040 – 1093), 1st Lord of Richmond, was a Breton nobleman, kinsman and companion of William the Conqueror (Duke William II o ...
and Odo of Champagne, against
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, bishop of Durham, at the request of William Rufus when the bishop was implicated in a revolt against the king; Roger also negotiated with the bishop on the king's behalf before the bishop went to trial. Roger's father Roger de Montgomery died in 1094. In 1094 Rufus sent Roger to hold the castle at
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in Normandy, but Roger surrendered it to
Philip I of France Philip I (23 May 1052 – 29 July 1108), called the Amorous, was King of the Franks from 1060 to 1108. His reign, like that of most of the early Capetians, was extraordinarily long for the time. The monarchy began a modest recovery from the low i ...
on the first day of the siege; Roger and his men were held for ransom and purchased their freedom. Though Philip I was an ally of Curthose, it is thought that this action was less a betrayal of Rufus and more a result of Roger's dual vassalage between the King of England and the King of France. Roger did not lose his English lands as a result of this action but held no position in Rufus' government from this point. Roger continued to be loyal to Rufus but in 1102 joined his brothers' failed rebellion against
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in favor of
Robert Curthose Robert Curthose, or Robert II of Normandy ( 1051 – 3 February 1134, french: Robert Courteheuse / Robert II de Normandie), was the eldest son of William the Conqueror and succeeded his father as Duke of Normandy in 1087, reigning until 1106. ...
. As a result Roger de Poitou lost his English holdings. The King put those in Craven into the governance of
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. Roger then went to his wife's holdings in Poitou. Almodis's uncle Odo was ousted as count of La Marche in 1104, and subsequently the sons of Roger and Almodis are styled as count. In 1109, Roger was permitted to briefly return to England to the court of Henry I, though he did not recover his earlier English holdings. After ca. 1109, Roger appears to have either lost interest in governing in La Marche, or lost the political power itself as he is only seen once in the documents of La Marche as his wife and sons held the authority in the region.


Offspring

The children of Roger and Almodis include: * Aldebert IV of La Marche * Boso IV of La Marche * Odo II of La Marche * Pontia of La Marche, who married Wulgrin II of Angoulême


References


Further reading

* Cokayne, G. E. (1887–98) ''Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom''. 8 vols. (which vol.?); pp. IV & Appendix I, pp. 762–65 {{DEFAULTSORT:Roger The Poitevin 12th-century deaths Anglo-Normans People from Lancashire Younger sons of earls Year of birth unknown Clan Montgomery