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"D'ye ken John Peel?" – which translates to "Do you know John Peel?" – is a famous
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hunting song written around 1824 by
John Woodcock Graves John Woodcock Graves (9 February 1795 – 17 August 1886) was a composer and author of " D'ye ken John Peel". Life Graves was born in Wigton, Cumberland, England, the son of Joseph Graves, a plumber, glazier and ironmonger and his wife Ann, '' ...
(1795–1886) in celebration of his friend
John Peel John Robert Parker Ravenscroft (30 August 1939 – 25 October 2004), known professionally as John Peel, was an English disc jockey (DJ) and radio presenter. He was the longest-serving of the original BBC Radio 1 DJs, broadcasting regularly fr ...
(1776–1854), an English
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from the
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. The melody is said to be a contrafactum of a popular border rant, " Bonnie Annie." A different version, the one that endures today, was musically adapted in 1869 by William Metcalfe (1829–1909), the organist and choirmaster of Carlisle Cathedral. The tune etymology has a long history that has been traced back to 1695 and attributed to adaptations – one in particular, from the 20th century, the 1939 jingle, "Pepsi-Cola Hits the Spot."


History

John Graves, who wrote it in Cumbrian dialect, tinkered with the words over the years and several versions are known. George Coward, a Carlisle bookseller who wrote under the '' pseudonym'' Sidney Gilpin, rewrote the lyrics with
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' approval, translating them from their original broad
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to
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; and in 1866, he published them in the book, ''Songs and Ballads of Cumberland.'' Another song written by Graves mentions one of John's brothers, Askew Peel (1789–1854), a horsedealer who also lived in Caldbeck. "D'ye ken John Peel?" was first sung in 1824 in Gate House in Caldbeck in John Graves’ home to the tune of the Border rant "Bonnie Annie." A different musical version was composed in 1869 by William Metcalfe, a conductor and composer – and lay clerk of Carlisle Cathedral. His arrangement – lauded as more musical than the traditional melody – became popular in London and was widely published. In 1906, the song was published in ''
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,'' but with a tune closer to ''Bonnie Annie'' – and that version is the most widely known today. English counties have no official anthem. However, "D'ye ken John Peel?" is commonly regarded as a kind of unofficial anthem of
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and the region.


Etymology and other uses

British musicologist Ann Gilchrist (1863–1954) and Canadian
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Edith Fowke (1913–1996) trace the use of the tune and lyrics in other songs and poems, including:
  1. "Red House," first published in 1695 by John Playford (1623–1686/7) in '' The Dancing Master'' (9th ed.)
    : ''Aka:''
    1. "Where will Our Good Man Lay?"
    2. "Where/Whar Wad Our Gudman/Bonny Annie Lye/Laye"
    3. "Where/Whar wad our Guidman Lie" : "Where Will Our Goodman Laye," published in ''Oswald's Caledonian Pocket Companion for the Flute'' (Vol. 2) ''(c.'' 1750), published by James Oswald (1710–1769)
    4. From the 1729 opera, '' Polly,'' Act I, Scene VIII, Air 9, the song "Red House," being the same version published in '' The Dancing Master''
  2. "Address to the Woodlark," by Robert Burns (1759–1796)
  3. "0! What Can Make My Annie Sigh?" by John Anderson
  4. The words, "Where wad bonny Anne lye?," in the song, "The Cordial," sung to the tune "Where Should Our Goodman Ly?" : Published 1 January 1724, in
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    's ''Tea-Table Miscellany: Or A Collection of Choice Songs, Scots and English'' (11th ed.) (Vol. 1 of 4)
  5. English-turned-American composer
    Austen Herbert Croom-Johnson Austen Herbert Croom-Johnson (20 October 1909 Hereford, England – 18 May 1964 Manhattan, New York City) was an English-born pianist, composer, and radio producer: first, until about 1935, for the BBC, then, from about 1936, for NBC. He went on ...
    (1909–1964), born in
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    , imported the tune, "D'ye ken John Peel," and scored it for a 1939 jingle, "Pepsi-Cola Hits the Spot" ''(aka'' "Nickel, Nickel"). His Chicago-born lyricist partner, Alan Bradley Kent ''(né'' Karl Dewitt Byington, Jr.; 1912–1991), wrote the words.
:: :: goodman = husband :: guidman = form of address, typically between people of equal rank who are not on familiar terms ''(also'' gudman, gudeman, goodman, ''and more)'' :: bonnie = pretty, attractive :: air = aria or song :: ken = to be aware of or to know


Lyrics

Verse 1 (best known; by
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) D'ye ken John Peel with his coat so gay?‡ D'ye ken John Peel at the break o' day? D'ye ken John Peel when he's far, far a-way. With his hounds and his horn in the morning? Chorus : For the sound of his horn brought me from my bed, : And the cry of his hounds which he oft time led, : Peel's "View, Halloo!" could awaken the dead, : Or the fox from his lair in the morning. ‡Some versions, according to '' The Oxford Dictionary of Quotations,'' show the phrase as " with his coat so gray," implying that his coat was likely made of local
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wool, commonly gray. If so, the color of John Peel's coat would be in contrast to that of other huntsmen – traditionally brightly colored, often red or
hunting pink Hunting is the human practice of seeking, pursuing, capturing, or killing wildlife or feral animals. The most common reasons for humans to hunt are to harvest food (i.e. meat) and useful animal products (fur/ hide, bone/tusks, horn/antler, et ...
.


Additional verses

Verse 2 (Coward's version) D'ye ken that bitch whose tongue was death? D'ye ken her sons of peerless faith? D'ye ken that fox, with his last breath Curs’d them all as he died in the morning? : For the sound of his horn, ''etc.'' Verse 3 Yes I ken John Peel and Ruby too Ranter and Royal and Bellman as true,* From the drag to the chase, from the chase to the view From a view to the death in the morning :For the sound of his horn, ''etc.'' Verse 4 And I've followed John Peel both often and far, O'er the rasper fence and the gate and the bar, From low
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up to Scratchmere Scar, Where we vie for the brush in the morning : For the sound of his horn, ''etc.''
Verse 5 Then here's to John Peel with my heart and soul Come fill – fill to him another strong bowl, And we'll follow John Peel through fair and through foul While we’re waked by his horn in the morning. : For the sound of his horn, ''etc.'' *These were the real names of the hounds that Peel, in his old age, said were the very best he ever had or saw. – J.W.G.


Alternative versions

As is common with songs often sung from memory, this has been recorded with other verses and minor differences in lyrics, such as in the third verse: "From the drag to the chase, from the chase to the view" and "From a view to a death in the morning": Alternative verse 1 Yes, I ken John Peel and his Ruby, too! Ranter and Ringwood, Bellman so true! From a find to a check, from a check to a view, From a view to a kill in the morning. : For the sound of his hor', ''etc.'' Coward's version of the last line was used for
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's book, ''A View to a Death in the Morning: Hunting and Nature Through History''. The alternative version was used as a title to the short story '' From a View to A Kill,'' found in the
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collection of short stories, '' For Your Eyes Only''. This was in turn shortened to '' A View to a Kill'', when applied to the fourteenth James Bond movie. This verse was not in Coward's version: Alternative verse 2 D'ye ken John Peel with his coat so gay? He liv'd at Troutbeck once on a day; Now he has gone far, away; We shall ne'er hear his voice in the morning. : For the sound of his horn, ''etc.''


Parodies

A number of parodies also exist. On BBC radio's ''
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,'' a version parodied the British Radio DJ ''
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'' 1st parody D'ye ken John Peel with his voice so grey? He sounds as if he's far far away; He sends you to sleep at the end of the day; 'til you're woken up by Tony Blackburn in the morning. Another was used in the 1979 film ''
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,'' which saw Ronnie Barker as Fletch cheekily observe a new prison warden. 2nd parody D'ye see yon screw with his look so vain? With his brand new key on his brand new chain; With a face like a ferret and a pea for a brain : And his hand on his whistle in the morning. Several lines of the song are also parodied in the course of James Joyce's '' Finnegans Wake''.


Regimental marches

* "John Peel" was one of the quick marches of the King's Own Royal Border Regiment before it merged in 2004 with the Queen's Lancashire Regiment and the King's Regiment to become the Duke of Lancaster's Regiment. * "John Peel" was the march of the
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. Capt R. Saunders, ''History of the 1st Cumberland Royal Garrison Artillery (Volunteers)'', Carlisle, G, & T. Coward, 1902, p. 15. * "John Peel" is the authorized Regimental March (dismounted) of The Lorne Scots (Peel, Dufferin and Halton Regiment) and
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of the Canadian Forces. * "John Peel" is the regimental march of the Queen's Own Yeomanry, an armoured formation reconnaissance regiment of the British Army.


Wedgwood

Wedgwood's creamware pitcher modelled with hunting scenes in low relief and with a handle modelled as a leaping hound, which was introduced in 1912, carried the pattern name "D'ye Ken John Peel".


Selected audio and discography

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vocalist : With orchestra and chorus : Recorded April 1907 : "D'ye ken John Peel" : Gramophone Concert Record G.C.-3-2798 : Matrix runout (Side A): Ho 2861ab *
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, Fall 2018 : "D'ye ken John Peel?" :
audio
''via'' YouTube) * Peter Dawson (1882–1961), English
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: With chorus and orchestra : Recorded 1918 : Side B: "D'ye ken John Peel" :
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– The Twin™ 1841 : British Zonophone Co., Ltd., England : Matrix runout (Side B label): X-3-42886 :
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: "Pepsi-Cola Hits the Spot" (1939) :
audio
''via'' YouTube) * King's Own Royal Border Regiment : "John Peel,"
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:
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''via'' YouTube) * Queen's Own Yeomanry : "D'ye ken John Peel," quick march of the regiment :
audio
''via'' YouTube) * Band of H.M. Coldstream Guards (28 March 2018) : "D'ye ken John Peel" :
audio
''via'' YouTube) * : Anita Boyer ''(née'' Anita Blanche Boyer; 1915–1985), vocalist : Both sides recorded December 1941,
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: Side A: "Swinging the Jingle" :: Austen Croom Johnson (music, American version) :: Alan Kent (words) ::
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(orchestra arrangement) : Side B: "Get Hep" :: Bissell Palmer ''(né'' Bissell Barbour Palmer; 1889–1968) (words) ::
Helmy Kresa Helmy Kresa, (born in Meissen, Germany on November 7, 1904, died 1991, Long Island, New York) was a songwriter and the principal arranger and orchestrator for Irving Berlin. In 1931, Kresa wrote " That's My Desire", which Frankie Laine, Loui ...
(orchestra arrangement) : Nocturne Records (fictitious label of Pepsi-Cola) : Matrix runout (Side A): 3135 A-1 : Matrix runout (Side B): 3135 B-1 :
"Swinging the Jingle"
''via'' YouTube) :
"Get Hep"
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Extant old publications

* "D'ye ken John Peel," hunting song; words by
John Woodcock Graves John Woodcock Graves (9 February 1795 – 17 August 1886) was a composer and author of " D'ye ken John Peel". Life Graves was born in Wigton, Cumberland, England, the son of Joseph Graves, a plumber, glazier and ironmonger and his wife Ann, '' ...
, music by William Metcalfe, London: J.B. Cramer & Co.;
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: W. Metcalfe (1869); series:
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(No. 1); ;


Copyrights

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Catalog of Copyright Entries United States copyright registrations, renewals, and other catalog entries since 1978 are published online at the United States Copyright Office website. Entries prior to 1978 are not published in the online catalog. Copyright registrations and rene ...
,'' Part 3: Musical Compositions
  1. : © 27 June 1913; E316233 :
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    , London : (copyright is claimed on arrangement)
    ''New Series,'' Vol. 8, Part 3, p. 792
    : ;
  2. "John Peel," variations on an English tune : Hubert Crook, of Great Britain; pf. : Cover title: "D'ye ken John Peel" : : A. Hammond & Co., London : ''New Series,'' Vol. 20, No. 1 (1926) p. 76 : ;


Copyrights relating to Pepsi-Cola

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,'' Part 3: Musical Compositions : 1939 Pepsi-Cola jingle
  1. " D'ye ken John Peel" :
    1 copy; 12 January 1938; EU157880
    : ABC Music Corporation, New York : : Published by Chappell & Co. ( ) : ;
  2. " Do ye ken, John Peel?" : :
    1 copy; 24 February 1938; EU161663
    :
    Irving Berlin, Inc. Bourne Co. Music Publishers is an American publisher of sheet music, and one of the largest privately held international music publishers in the world,''Billboard'', 12 Nov 2005page 61 with over three thousand titles in their catalogue. Subsidiar ...
    , New York : :
    29 July 1965; R365626
    :: Margaret Mary LeLange ''(né'' Margaret Mary Lohden; 1918–1990) (widow) ::
  3. " Do ye ken, John Peel?" : :
    1 copy; 16 March 1938; EP68157
    :
    Irving Berlin, Inc. Bourne Co. Music Publishers is an American publisher of sheet music, and one of the largest privately held international music publishers in the world,''Billboard'', 12 Nov 2005page 61 with over three thousand titles in their catalogue. Subsidiar ...
    , New York : :
    29 July 1965; R365625
    :: Margaret Mary LeLange (widow) ::
  4. " Do ye ken John Peel,"
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    :
    © 14 April 1938; EP70500
    :
    Irving Berlin, Inc. Bourne Co. Music Publishers is an American publisher of sheet music, and one of the largest privately held international music publishers in the world,''Billboard'', 12 Nov 2005page 61 with over three thousand titles in their catalogue. Subsidiar ...
    , New York :
  5. "Pepsi-Cola Hits the Spot" : ©1939 by Johnson-Siday : (Austen Croom Johnson &
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    ) : (copyright source not found)
  6. "Pepsi-Cola Radio Jingle" : : 1 copy; 2 January 1940; EP162049 : (original copyright source not found) :
    7 April 1967; R407224
    :: PepsiCo, Inc. (formerly Pepsi-Cola Co.) ::
  7. "Get Hep" :
    9 October 1941; EP98040
    : Pepsi-Cola Company of Long Island City, New York :
: New theme
  1. "Pepsi-Cola Hits the Spot" : Words and adaptation of music of the Pepsi-Cola Co. : NM: Adaptation and revised words : ©Pepsi-Cola Co.
    1 March 1965; EU867255
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Copyrights relating to wind ensembles

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,'' Part 3: Musical Compositions
  1. : Arranged by C.V. Wright, London : Parts : ''(Popular Marches for Military Band and Brass Band)'' : NM: Arrangement :
    Hawkes & Son Boosey & Hawkes is a British music publisher purported to be the largest specialist classical music publisher in the world. Until 2003, it was also a major manufacturer of brass, string and woodwind musical instruments. Formed in 1930 throug ...
    , London, Ltd.
    9 December 1960; EF0-76517
    :
:: :: EF = Music published abroad :: EP = Class E (musical composition), published :: UP = Class E (musical composition), unpublished :: R = Copyright renewal :: NM = New matter


See also

* ''
D'Ye Ken John Peel? ''D'Ye Ken John Peel?'' (released in America as ''Captain Moonlight'') is a 1935 British adventure film directed by Henry Edwards and starring John Garrick, Winifred Shotter and Stanley Holloway. It was made at Julius Hagen's Twickenham Stud ...
'' a 1935 film * ''
Bellman and True ''Bellman and True'' is a 1987 film based on the novel of the same name by Desmond Lowden. The film was written and directed by Richard Loncraine. It stars Bernard Hill, Derek Newark and Richard Hope. The title comes from an old Cumberland s ...
,'' a 1987 film starring
Bernard Hill Bernard Hill (born 17 December 1944) is an English actor. He is well recognized for playing King Théoden in ''The Lord of the Rings'' film trilogy, Captain Edward Smith in ''Titanic'', and Luther Plunkitt, the Warden of San Quentin Prison in the ...
, uses the lyrics to describe the various duties of bankrobbers ''(i.e.,'' a Bellman, in the vernacular of the London underworld, is a person who "fixes" alarms). A version of the song plays during the closing credits, sung by Lonnie Donegan.


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An arrangement of the tune

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