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Mary Margaret McBride (November 16, 1899 – April 7, 1976) was an American radio interview host and writer. Her popular radio shows spanned more than 40 years. In the 1940s the daily audience for her housewife-oriented program numbered from six to eight million listeners. She was called "The First Lady of Radio."


Early life

McBride was born on November 16, 1899, in
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, to a farming family. Their frequent relocations disorganized her early schooling, but at the age of six she became a student at a preparatory school called William Woods College, and at 16 the
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, receiving a degree in
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there in 1919. She was a member of
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at the University of Missouri. She worked a year as a reporter at the ''
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'', and then until 1924 at the ''
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''. Following this, she wrote freelance for periodicals including ''
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'', ''
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'', ''
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'', and starting in 1926 collaborated in writing travel-oriented books.


Radio and sidelines


As Martha Deane

McBride first worked steadily in radio for WOR in New York City, starting in 1934. This daily women's-advice show, with her persona as "Martha Deane", a kind and witty grandmother figure with a Missouri-drawl, aired daily until 1940. Originally, McBride's character "Martha Deane" was to be a grandmother with six children and many grandchildren-all imaginary. They were all named and described; she was to memorize the details. Her job was to talk colloquially and dispense philosophy. She kept getting all her "grandchildren's" names mixed up and within three weeks she jettisoned the whole tribe on air. She remained Martha Deane, but was no longer a grandmother. Concurrently with working as "Deane", in 1934 and 1935, she was the
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editor for the
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syndicate.


As herself

In 1937, she launched on the
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the first of a series of similar and successful shows, now as Mary Margaret McBride. She had to abandon the Deane persona because WOR owned the name and had replaced her in 1940 with
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. She interviewed figures well known in the world of arts and entertainment, and politics, with a style recognized as original to herself. She accepted advertising only for products she was prepared to endorse from her own experience, and turned down all tobacco or alcohol products. She followed this format in regular broadcasts on * CBS until 1941 *
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(where her audience numbered in the millions) from then until 1950 *
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from then until 1954 * NBC again until 1960, and * The ''
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s radio broadcasts with a wider audience via syndication. Her NBC show in the 1940s had broad range of guests, from politicians to generals to movie stars; she never announced her guests in advance, so the audience tuned in with no idea what they would get. Beginning during
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, she began "breaking the color line", mixing in
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guests. McBride was a popular media figure; the
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, 'Mary Margaret McBride' was named for her. In September 1948, NBC brought McBride to television for a 30-minute
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show on Tuesdays at 9pm EST. However, NBC abandoned the show in its partial third month, with ''
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'' describing the attempt sarcastically, and ''
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'' calling her the first major "fatality" of this kind. Below is a review of one of her first television performances, reviewed by ''The New York Times'': :Perhaps the ladies in the daytime can survive Miss McBride's effusive and interminable commercials, but for the men at home in the evening they are hard to take after a day at the office. To watch Miss McBride shift-without pause or loss of breath-from a eulogy of Kemtone paint to an analysis of Russia is an ordeal not quickly forgotten. If nighttime television is to be daytime radio, away video, away! From 1953 to 1956 she also conducted a syndicated newspaper column for the
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. About 20 years apart, she wrote two books for girls, each with "Elizabeth" in the title. As time went on, she appeared in smaller radio
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s, in
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, and toward the end of her life hosted "Your Hudson Valley Neighbor" three times a week on WGHQ Kingston, NY from the living room of he
home
Her longtime companion and business partner, Stella Karn, died in 1957. She died at the age of 76 on April 7, 1976, at her home in
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. McBride's ashes were placed in her former rose garden. She has a star on the
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for her work in radio.


Cultural impact

An account of her career, ''It's One O'clock and Here is Mary Margaret McBride: A Radio Biography'' by Susan Ware was published in early 2005. She is also discussed in depth in ''Radio Voices'' by Michele Hilmes. The character of "Mary McGoon", featured in the comedy routines of
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, is a parody of Mary Margaret McBride. The TV host "Molly Margaret McSnide" in Fantastic Four issue 16 is an obvious reference. Her name was spoofed on the classic CBS-TV sitcom ''
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'' in Episode # 79, "The Million Dollar Idea", which aired on January 11, 1954. In that installment, Lucy (''
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'') comes up with an ambitious idea to make money. She decides to appear on television selling her Aunt Martha's salad dressing. Assisting her on the program is her best friend Ethel Mertz (''
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'') as "Mary Margaret McMertz." McBride's celebrity was hardly a secret confined to daytime radio listeners, either: her 15th anniversary celebration in 1949 was held in Yankee stadium, the only facility large enough to hold the 75,000 people who filled every seat and formed huge crowds outside. Her magazine show was on the air continuously for 25 years. McBride pioneered a style of ad-libbing her radio shows, meaning that the content in her show was not rehearsed prior to going on the air. She was acknowledged by ''Current Biography'' as "the first woman to bring newspaper technique to radio interviewing and to make daytime broadcasts profitable." The method of sustaining her show was also distinct. McBride and manager Stella Karn would produce their show and then market it directly to sponsors in the New York area or broader national arena. This format allowed McBride and Karn to have complete agency over the content and format of the show. The two were consistently able to maintain a level of support from sponsors, meaning that they were able to produce content that was exactly how they envisioned it, free of outside changes. This model was also one of McBride's notable contributions to broadcasting, as it paved the way for independent producing.


Personal relationship

Mary Margaret McBride and Stella Karn met in the early 1920s in an instance of complete happenstance. As McBride describes it as, “One day a bouncy woman, with eager brown eyes and auburn hair rolled into a bun, burst into our office and announced that she would be handling publicity for us.” McBride and Karn worked together for years, with Karn managing McBride and her show. McBride described the two of them in a Reader's Digest edition in 1962 as, "No two people were more unlike. My reaction to a crisis was to dissolve into tears; Stella's was to charge into battle." The two moved in together in a small apartment in the Chelsea neighborhood of New York City. McBride and Karn relied on each other for the entirety of their professional and personal lives. McBride describes their first endeavor as a complete gamble motivated solely by Karn's optimism. During the Great Depression, the opportunity came for McBride to audition for a radio show, one of the only sources of entertainment at the time. When McBride got the job, she immediately recommended Karn as the person to handle the business side of the show's affairs. Karn and McBride became business partners, and Karn's first act on the job was to give her partner a raise. McBride and Karn made a name for themselves as pioneers in the field of broadcasting, and also as trailblazers for the future of lesbian and bisexual journalists. McBride and Karn established their show as a connection point for lesbian and bisexual female creatives, forging friendships with influential names in broadcasting such as Ann Batchelder and Lisa Sergio.


Bibliography

* ''Jazz'' (with
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), 1926 * ''Charm'' (with Alexander Williams), 1927 * ''Paris Is a Woman's Town'' (with Helen Josephy), 1929 * ''London Is a Man's Town ut Women Go There' (with Josephy), 1930 * ''New York Is Everybody's Town'' (with Josephy), 1931 * ''Beer and Skittles: A Friendly Guide to Modern Germany'' (with Josephy), 1932 * ''Tune in for Elizabeth'', 1945 * ''Mary Margaret McBride's Harvest of American Cooking'', 1957 * ''The Growing Up of Mary Elizabeth'', 1966 * Two autobiographical works


References


Further reading

* Susan Ware. ''It's One O'Clock and Here Is Mary Margaret McBride: A Radio Biography'' (New York University Press, 2005). xii + 304 pp.
online review


External links

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interviewed by
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on ''The Mike Wallace Interview'' June 16, 1957 {{DEFAULTSORT:McBride, Mary Margaret 1899 births 1976 deaths American talk radio hosts American women radio presenters 20th-century American women writers University of Missouri alumni American women journalists Women's page journalists