John Vance (10 December 1808 – 21 September 1875) was a

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MP for Dublin City from 1852 until his defeat in 1865. He was later elected unopposed for

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and represented the constituency from 30 June 1867 until his death. Vance was born in Dublin to a family with strong connections to

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; they are believed to have emigrated from Scotland in the eighteenth century. He was the eldest son of Andrew Vance of Rutland Square and Mary Falls, daughter of James Falls of Aughnacloy, County Tyrone. His numerous siblings included Andrew Vance (died 1862),

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, and Thomas Vance (died 1889), a well-to-do merchant, of Blackrock House, Blackrock, County Dublin. Richard Dowse, the eminent politician and judge, was a cousin through his grandmother Mary Vance. He was married and had two daughters: Florence, who never married, and Adelaide-Sidney (died 1907), who married Sir Richard Francis Keane, 4th Baronet, and was the mother of the politician

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. In the 1847 General Election, Vance was unsuccessful in his attempts to be elected for

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. In 1853, the Canterbury Bribery Commission found his agent guilty of bribery.

Dublin City Elections

General Election, 1852 (2 seats)

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'' reports Vance's address to the electors as ''all that the Protestant Party could reasonably or unreasonably desire''. The

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Orange Lodges pronounce for him.The Times,''Election Intelligence'' 18 Jun 1852; pg8 col D He is against the

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. # Edward Grogan (Conservative) 4,531 (37.82%) #John Vance 4,429 (36.97%) #John Reynolds (Liberal - Independent Opposition) 3,019 (25.20%)

General Election, 1857 (2 seats)

#Edward Grogan 3,767 (26.47%) #John Vance 3,711 (26.08%) #Francis William Brady (Liberal) 3,405 (23.93%) #John Reynolds (Liberal) 3,348 (23.53%)

General Election, 1859 (2 seats)

#Sir Edward Grogan, Bt 4,251 (26.03%) #John Vance 4,224 (25.86%) #Francis William Brady 3,976 (24.34%) #Alexander McCarthy (Liberal) 3,881 (23.76%)

General Election, 1865 (2 seats)

#Sir Benjamin Lee Guinness, Bt (Conservative) 4,739 (35.19%) # Jonathan Pim (Liberal) 4,653 (34.56%) #John Vance 4,073 (30.25%) On Vance's defeat the

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stated that Pim typified

's reformation from "unlightened and unadorned

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"Rome Rule"

Vance coined the phrase "Home Rule is

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", meaning that the efforts to secure

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would result in a state dominated by the

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. In a debate on an Irish Bill on 12 July 1871 he said: "He was speaking to the question raised by the hon. Member for Westmeath, and his own opinion was that "home rule" in Ireland would prove to be "Rome rule"."Hansard report, 12 July 1871
/ref> The slogan was popularized by

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to oppose the first Irish Home Rule Bill 1886 a decade after Vance's death.

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* {{DEFAULTSORT:Vance, John 1808 births 1875 deaths Irish Conservative Party MPs Members of the Parliament of the United Kingdom for County Armagh constituencies (1801–1922) Members of the Parliament of the United Kingdom for County Dublin constituencies (1801–1922) UK MPs 1852–1857 UK MPs 1857–1859 UK MPs 1859–1865 UK MPs 1868–1874 UK MPs 1874–1880