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The Indian 841 was a
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designed by the Indian Manufacturing Co. for desert warfare. It pioneered the drivetrain configuration later popularized by
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, having a longitudinally mounted air-cooled 90-degree V-twin with shaft drive to the rear wheel.


History

During
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, the US Army requested experimental motorcycle designs suitable for desert fighting and offered Indian $350,000 in exchange for 1,000 shaft-drive, side-valve, twin-cylinder test motorcycles. In response to this request, Indian designed and built the 841 (8 for the new engine design and 41 for the year). The Indian 841 was heavily inspired by the BMW R71 motorcycle, as was its competitor, the
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. However, unlike the XA, the 841 was not a copy of the R71. Although its tubular frame, plunger rear suspension, four-speed transmission, foot-operated shifter, hand-operated clutch and shaft drive were similar to the BMW's, the 841 was different from the BMW in several aspects, most noticeably so with its 90-degree longitudinal-crankshaft
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and
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. Also unlike the R71 and the XA, the 841 used a heel-and-toe shift pedal with heel-operated upshifts and toe-operated downshifts. The bike also had a low compression ratio of 5.1:1, meaning that it could be run on low-octane fuel, crash bars to protect the cylinders, 18-inch wheels, two separate gas tanks for a total of 5 gallons of available fuel and newly designed girder forks for better shock absorption. In order to reduce costs, the new V-twin shared several internal components with the existing Indian Sport Scout, resulting in the same bore and stroke of . The Indian 841 and the Harley-Davidson XA were both tested by the Army, but neither motorcycle was adopted for wider military use. It was determined that the
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was more suitable for the roles and missions for which these motorcycles had been intended. The 841 had also been found to have gearbox problems. Surplus 841s were eventually sold from the corporate warehouse in Springfield. Indian enthusiast Sammy Pierce used the tank and frame of his 841 along with the case and cylinders of an Indian Chief to make his P-61 American Rocket, featured on the cover of the May 1952 issue of ''Cycle'' magazine.


Drivetrain configuration

Similar drivetrain configurations, using wide-angle longitudinally mounted V-twins with shaft drive, were later used on the 1953-1956 Victoria Bergmeister motorcycle, the
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, and, most notably, on medium- and large-sized
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motorcycles.


See also

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BMW R75 : ''For the 1970s 750 cc motorcycles see BMW R75/5, BMW R75/6, or BMW R75/7'' The BMW R75 is a World War II-era motorcycle and sidecar combination produced by the German company BMW. The BMW R75 stands out by its integral two-wheel drive des ...
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G-numbers This is the Group G series List of the United States military vehicles by (Ordnance) supply catalog designation, — ''one'' of the alpha-numeric "Standard Nomenclature Lists" (SNL) that were part of the overall List of the United States Army w ...
(SNL G631) *
List of motorcycles of the 1940s This a listing of motorcycles of the 1940s, including those on sale, introduced, or otherwise relevant in this period. Motorcycle *Acme motorcycle (1939–49) * AJS 18 * AJS 7R *AJS Model 16 * AJS Model 20 *AJS Porcupine * Ariel Red Hunter * ...
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List of motorcycles of the 1950s This a listing of motorcycles of the 1950s, including those on sale, introduced, or otherwise relevant in this period. * AJS 18 (1949-1963)


References

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{{Cite web, url=http://www.motorcyclemuseum.org/asp/classics/bike.asp?id=71 , title=Motorcycle Hall of Fame Museum: 1942 Harley-Davidson XA , publisher=Motorcyclemuseum.org , access-date=2011-02-25 , archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20120727003729/http://www.motorcyclemuseum.org/asp/classics/bike.asp?id=71 , archive-date=2012-07-27 , url-status=dead {{cite book , title= Standard Catalog of U.S. Military Vehicles, last= Doyle, first= David, date= Feb 28, 2011, publisher= Krause Publications, isbn= 978-1-44022-799-8, edition=2nd, pages= 17–18, access-date=July 24, 2012 , url=https://books.google.com/books?id=Ljdma-SYU0gC, quote= Unfortunately, the gearbox was hard to shift and trouble prone., author-link=David Doyle (writer) {{cite web, url=http://www.motorcycleclassics.com/legendary-riders/2007-09-01/indian-hot-rod.aspx, title=Sammy Pierce's P-61 American Rocket, publisher=Motorcycle Classics, access-date=2009-08-11, date=September–October 2007, author=Margie Siegal {{cite book , chapter=The A-Z of Motorcycles , url=https://archive.org/details/encyclopediaofmo00wils_1 , title=The Encyclopedia of the Motorcycle , publisher=Dorling-Kindersley , last=Wilson , first=Hugo , url-access=registration , year=1995 , location=London UK , pag
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