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Herbert Poore or Poor or - the
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did not necessarily translate the English ''poor'' but represents
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, a "boy", and particularly one of good family, a
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. (died 1217) was a medieval English clergyman who held the post of
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during the reigns of
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and
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.Kingsford, Charles Lethbridge. " Herbert Poor or Pauper" in the ''Dictionary of National Biography'', Vol. XLVI. Smith, Elder, & Co. (London), 1896. Hosted at
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Life

Poore was probably the son of
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, also known as Richard Toclive, who served as
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.British History Online Bishops of Salisbury
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He was the brother of
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, who succeeded him as bishop.British History Online Deans of Salisbury
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He may have served under his father in the
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but is first recorded as an
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in 1175.British History Online Archdeacons of Canterbury
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He was initially one of a trio in the office but, in 1180, Archbishop Richard reversed himself and left Herbert the sole archdeacon for the area. At some point, he also became a canon of Lincoln and Salisbury, entitling him to their
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s. In his capacity as archdeacon of Canterbury, Herbert enthroned
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of
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on 11 December 1183. In July the next year, he was one of the men charged by Henry II to instruct the monks of Christ Church, Canterbury, to elect his favorite
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Baldwin of
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as Richard's successor. From 1185 to 1188, he directed the income of the vacant see of
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and, in May 1186, the chapter at Lincoln elected him to succeed Walter as their bishop. The king refused his consent. The chapter at Salisbury then elected him to succeed Joscelin as the Bishop of Salisbury. The king assented on 14 September 1186 but the minority appealed to
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owing to Herbert's birth to his father's
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. (The position was ultimately taken up by
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.) On 29 September 1186 he officiated the enthronement of
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as bishop of Lincoln and, in May 1193, he appealed to
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against Hubert Walter's elevation as archbishop of Canterbury, as the king was in captivity and the bishops had not been present at his election. Instead, Celestine presented Hubert with his
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, the symbol of his new office, and he was enthroned at Canterbury on 7 November.Young, Charles R. ''Hubert Walter: Lord of Canterbury and Lord of England'', p. 45. Duke University Press (
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), 1968. OCLC 443445.
The canons of Salisbury unanimously elected Herbert as Hubert's successor around 5 May 1194,Fryde, et al. ''Handbook of British Chronology'' p. 270 and the archbishop confirmed the result on 29 April. Herbert was only in
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's
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at the time; he was
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as a
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on 4 June, the day before Hubert
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him in St Katherine's Chapel at
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. He was
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at
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on 13 June. In December 1197, Herbert joined St Hugh of
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in denying the
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s for a year's service in his French wars; when Archbishop Hubert made the same request at the
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in February of the next year, they successfully resisted. By the king's orders, all of Herbert's English lands were then seized, until he left to visit Richard personally in
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.Robinson, J. Armitage. "Peter of Blois" in ''Somerset Historical Essays'', pp. 128 f. Oxford University Press (London), 1921. He was permitted to return to England with his lands and title in June upon payment of a large fine. It was Herbert's idea to move the see from
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and he received permission from Richard to that effect, but the plan had to be abandoned after King John came to the throne. It was left to Herbert's brother and successor,
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, to carry it out decades later, founding modern
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in the process. Bishop Herbert attended King John's
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on 27 May 1199. On 19 September 1200, he served as a papal delegate at the reconciliation of
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Geoffrey and the chapter of
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at
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and, on 22 November, he was present when the king of
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paid homage to John at
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. He was summoned to John in
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on 14 December 1201. He received six tuns of wine on 2 January 1205. In 1207, the dispute over the appointment of the new
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caused Herbert and
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to flee to
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. By 27 May 1208, Herbert appears to have returned to Ramsbury but, the next year,
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wrote to him concerning John's failure to pay Richard's widow Berengaria her pension (21 January) and then directed him, along with Bishop Gilbert, to publish the
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against John. The king was then
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and Herbert again fled to Scotland. In 1212, he and Bishop Gilbert were instructed to release them from their oaths of allegiance to John. In May 1213, John capitulated; Herbert's lands and
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were ordered restored to him on 18 July. Herbert died in 1217. Sources variously place the date on February 6 or May 9 while it was commemorated at Salisbury on 7 January. He was not buried at the
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but at Wilton.


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British History Online Archdeacons of Canterbury
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British History Online Bishops of Salisbury
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British History Online Deans of Salisbury
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