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''Cratylus'' ( ; grc, Κρατύλος, ''Kratylos'') is the name of a dialogue by
Plato Plato ( ; grc-gre, Πλάτων ; 428/427 or 424/423 – 348/347 BC) was a Greek philosopher born in Athens during the Classical period in Ancient Greece. He founded the Platonist school of thought and the Academy, the first institution ...
. Most modern scholars agree that it was written mostly during Plato's so-called middle period. In the dialogue,
Socrates Socrates (; ; –399 BC) was a Greek philosopher from Athens who is credited as the founder of Western philosophy and among the first moral philosophers of the ethical tradition of thought. An enigmatic figure, Socrates authored no te ...
is asked by two men,
Cratylus Cratylus ( ; grc, Κρατύλος, ''Kratylos'') was an ancient Athenian philosopher from the mid-late 5th century BCE, known mostly through his portrayal in Plato's dialogue '' Cratylus''. He was a radical proponent of Heraclitean philosophy ...
and
Hermogenes Hermogenes is a Greek name (), meaning "born of Hermes". It may refer to: * Hermogenes (potter) (fl. c. 550 BC), Attic Greek potter * Hermogenes (philosopher) (fl. c. 400 BC), Greek * Hermogenes of Priene (fl. c. 200 BC), Greek architect * Hermog ...
, to tell them whether names are "conventional" or "natural", that is, whether
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is a system of arbitrary signs or whether words have an intrinsic relation to the things they signify. The individual Cratylus was the first intellectual influence on Plato ( Sedley).
Aristotle Aristotle (; grc-gre, Ἀριστοτέλης ''Aristotélēs'', ; 384–322 BC) was a Greek philosopher and polymath during the Classical period in Ancient Greece. Taught by Plato, he was the founder of the Peripatetic school of phil ...
states that Cratylus influenced Plato by introducing to him the teachings of
Heraclitus Heraclitus of Ephesus (; grc-gre, Ἡράκλειτος , "Glory of Hera"; ) was an ancient Greek pre-Socratic philosopher from the city of Ephesus, which was then part of the Persian Empire. Little is known of Heraclitus's life. He wrote ...
, according to MW. Riley.


Summary

The subject of Cratylus is ''on'' ''the correctness of names'' (περὶ ὀνομάτων ὀρθότητος), in other words, it is a critique on the subject of naming (Baxter). When discussing an ὄνομα (''
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'' ) and how it would relate to its subject, Socrates compares the original creation of a word to the work of an artist. An artist uses color to express the essence of his subject in a painting. In much the same way, the creator of words uses letters containing certain sounds to express the essence of a word's subject. There is a letter that is best for soft things, one for liquid things, and so on. He comments: One countering position, held by Hermogenes, is that names have come about due to custom and convention. They do not express the essence of their subject, so they can be swapped with something unrelated by the individuals or communities who use them. The line between the two perspectives is often blurred. During more than half of the dialogue, Socrates makes guesses at Hermogenes' request as to where names and words have come from. These include the names of the Olympian gods, personified deities, and many words that describe abstract concepts. He examines whether, for example, giving names of "streams" to Cronus and Rhea (''Ροή'' – flow or space) are purely accidental. The Greek term "ῥεῦμα" may refer to the flow of any medium and is not restricted to the flow of water or liquids. Many of the words which Socrates uses as examples may have come from an idea originally linked to the name, but have changed over time. Those of which he cannot find a link, he often assumes have come from foreign origins or have changed so much as to lose all resemblance to the original word. He states, "names have been so twisted in all manner of ways, that I should not be surprised if the old language when compared with that now in use would appear to us to be a barbarous tongue." The final theory of relations between name and object named is posited by Cratylus, a disciple of
Heraclitus Heraclitus of Ephesus (; grc-gre, Ἡράκλειτος , "Glory of Hera"; ) was an ancient Greek pre-Socratic philosopher from the city of Ephesus, which was then part of the Persian Empire. Little is known of Heraclitus's life. He wrote ...
, who believes that names arrive from divine origins, making them necessarily correct. Socrates rebukes this theory by reminding Cratylus of the imperfection of certain names in capturing the objects they seek to signify. From this point, Socrates ultimately rejects the study of language, believing it to be philosophically inferior to a study of things themselves.


Hades' name in Cratylus

An extended section of
Plato Plato ( ; grc-gre, Πλάτων ; 428/427 or 424/423 – 348/347 BC) was a Greek philosopher born in Athens during the Classical period in Ancient Greece. He founded the Platonist school of thought and the Academy, the first institution ...
's dialogue ''Cratylus'' is devoted to the etymology of the name of the god
Hades Hades (; grc-gre, ᾍδης, Háidēs; ), in the ancient Greek religion and myth, is the god of the dead and the king of the underworld, with which his name became synonymous. Hades was the eldest son of Cronus and Rhea, although this also ...
. The origin of Hades' name is uncertain, but has generally been seen as meaning "The Unseen One" since antiquity. Modern linguists have proposed the
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form *''Awides'' ("unseen"). The earliest attested form is ''Aḯdēs'' (), which lacks the proposed
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. (
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(2007), following Thieme (1952), argues instead for an original meaning of "the one who presides over meeting up," referring to the universality of death; but this derivation is widely regarded as untenable.) In ''Cratylus'',
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jocularly argues for a
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not from "unseen" but from "his knowledge ('' eidenai'') of all noble things".


Hades' name in classical Greek

The sound was lost at various times in various dialects, mostly before the classical period. In Ionic, had probably disappeared before
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's epics were written down (7th century BC), but its former presence can be detected in many cases because its omission left the
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', 'lord', '(military) leader') and (; 'wine') are sometimes found in the
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in the meter where a word starting with a consonant would be expected. Cognate-analysis and earlier written evidence shows that earlier these words would have been (, attested to in this form in Mycenaean Greek) and (; cf.
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''ibêna'', cf.
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''vīnum'' and
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"wine").


Appropriate sounds

*''ρ'' ('r') is a "tool for copying every sort of motion ( κίνησις)."e.g. ''rhein'' ('flowing'), ''rhoe'' ('flow'), ''tromos'' ('trembling'), ''trechein'' ('running'), ''krouein'' ('striking'), ''thrauein'' ('crushing'), ''ereikein'' ('rending'), ''thruptein'' ('breaking'), ''kermatizein'' ('crumbling'), ''rhumbein'' ('whirling'). * ''ι'' ('i') for imitating "all the small things that can most easily penetrate everything",e.g. ''ienai'' ('moving'), ''hiesthai'' ('hastening'). * ''φ'' ('phi'), ''ψ'' ('psi'). ''σ'' ('s'), and ''ζ'' ('z') as "all these letters are pronounced with an expulsion of breath", they are most appropriate for imitating "blowing or hard breathing".Cratylus 427a.e.g. ''psuchron'' ('chilling'), ''zeon'' ('seething'), ''seiesthai'' ('shaking'), ''seismos'' ('quaking'). * ''δ'' ('d') and ''τ'' ('t') as both involve "compression and hestopping of the power of the tongue" when pronounced, they are most appropriate for words indicating a lack or stopping of motion.e.g. ''desmos'' ('shackling'), ''stasis'' ('rest'). * ''λ'' ('l'), as "the tongue glides most of all" when pronounced, it is most appropriate for words denoting a sort of gliding.Cratylus 427b.e.g. ''olisthanein'' ('glide'), ''leion'' ('smooth'), ''liparon'' ('sleek'), ''kollodes'' ('viscous'). * ''γ'' ('g') best used when imitating "something cloying", as the gliding of the tongue is stopped when pronounced.e.g. ''glischron'' ('gluey'), ''gluku'' ('sweet'), ''gloiodes'' ('clammy'). * ''ν'' ('n') best used when imitating inward things, as it is "sounded inwardly".Cratylus 427c.e.g. ''endon'' ('within'), ''entos'' ('inside'). * ''α'' ('a'), ''η'' ('long e') best used when imitating large things, as they are both "pronounced long".e.g. ''mega'' ('large'), ''mekos'' ('length'). * ''ο'' ('o') best used when imitating roundness.e.g. ''gongulon'' ('round'). Although these are clear examples of
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, Socrates's statement that words are not musical imitations of nature suggests that Plato didn't believe that language itself generates from sound words.


Platonic theory of forms

Plato's
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also makes an appearance. For example, no matter what a hammer is made out of, it is still called a "hammer", and thus is the ''form'' of a hammer:
Socrates: So mustn't a rule-setter also know how to embody in sounds and syllables the name naturally suited to each thing? And if he is to be an authentic giver of names, mustn't he, in making and giving each name, look to what a name itself is? And if different rule-setters do not make each name out of the same syllables, we mustn't forget that different blacksmiths, who are making the same tool for the same type of work, don't all make it out of the same iron. But as long as they give it the same form--even if that form is embodied in different iron--the tool will be correct, whether it is made in Greece or abroad. Isn't that so?
Plato's theory of forms again appears at 439c, when Cratylus concedes the existence of "a beautiful itself, and a good itself, and the same for each one of the things that are".


Influence, legacy

German psychologist
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used the Cratylus dialogue as the basis for his
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of communication, published in 1934.Bühler, Karl (1934/1990). ''The Theory of Language: The Representational Function of Language (Sprachtheorie)'', p. 35. Translated by Donald Fraser Goodwin. Amsterdam: John Benjamin's Publishing Company. ISSN 0168-2555. Gérard Genette, in the work ‘Mimologie. Voyage en Cratilie’ (1976), starts from Plato's speech to argue the idea of arbitrariness of the sign: according to this thesis, already supported by the great linguist Ferdinand de Saussure, the connection between language and objects is not natural, but culturally determined. The ideas developed in the Cratylus, although sometimes dated, have historically been an important point of reference in the development of Linguistics. On the basis of the Craylus
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has reconstructed in the essay ‘Plato’s theory of language. Perspectives on the concept of truth’ (2007, Il Melangolo), the platonic conception of semantics, according to which names have a natural link (an essential foundation) with their "nominatum".pp. 9-100,
Gaetano Licata Gaetano (anglicized '' Cajetan'') is an Italian masculine given name. It is also used as a surname. It is derived from the Latin ''Caietanus'', meaning "from ''Caieta''" (the modern Gaeta). The given name has been in use in Italy since medieval ...
, Teoria platonica del linguaggio. Prospettive sul concetto di verità,Genova, Il Melangolo, 2007.


Texts and translations

* An early translation was made by Thomas Taylor in 1804. * Plato: ''Cratylus, Parmenides, Greater Hippias, Lesser Hippias.'' With translation by Harold N. Fowler. Loeb Classical Library 167. Harvard Univ. Press (originally published 1926).
HUP listing
* Plato: ''Opera'', Volume I. Oxford Classical Texts. * Plato: ''Complete Works.'' Hackett, 1997. *Dalimier, C., 1998, ''Platon, Cratyle'', Paris: Flammarion. *Méridier, L., 1931, ''Platon, Cratyle'', Paris: Les belles lettres. *Reeve, C. D. C., 1997, ''Plato, Cratylus: translated with introduction and notes'', Indianapolis and Cambridge: Hackett; reprinted in J.M. Cooper. (ed.) ''Plato, Complete Works'', Indianapolis and Cambridge: Hackett.


See also

*
Cratylism Cratylism as a philosophical theory reflects the teachings of the Athenian Cratylus ( grc, Κρατύλος, also transliterated as Kratylos), fl. mid to late 5th century BCE. Cratylism holds that there is a natural relationship between words and w ...
*
Map–territory relation The map–territory relation is the relationship between an object and a representation of that object, as in the relation between a geographical territory and a map of it. Polish-American scientist and philosopher Alfred Korzybski remarked that ...
*
Nirukta ''Nirukta'' ( sa, निरुक्त, , "explained, interpreted") is one of the six ancient Vedangas, or ancillary science connected with the Vedas – the scriptures of Hinduism.James Lochtefeld (2002), "Nirukta" in The Illustrated Encyclope ...
*
Sound symbolism In linguistics, sound symbolism is the resemblance between sound and meaning. It is a form of linguistic iconicity. For example, the English word ''ding'' may sound similar to the actual sound of a bell. Linguistic sound may be perceived as simi ...
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True name A true name is a name of a thing or being that expresses, or is somehow identical to, its true nature. The notion that language, or some specific sacred language, refers to things by their true names has been central to philosophical study as wel ...


Footnotes


References


Further reading

* Ackrill, J. L., 1994, ‘Language and reality in Plato’s ''Cratylus''’, in A. Alberti (ed.) ''Realtà e ragione'', Florence: Olschki: 9–28; repr. in Ackrill, ''Essays on Plato and Aristotle'', Oxford: Oxford University Press, 1997: 33–52. * Ademollo, F., 2011, ''The ‘Cratylus’ of Plato: a Commentary'', Cambridge: Cambridge University Press * Annas, J., 1982, ‘Knowledge and language: the ''Theaetetus'' and ''Cratylus''’, in Schofield and Nussbaum 1982: 95–114. * Barney, R., 2001, ''Names and Nature in Plato’s Cratylus'', New York and London: Routledge. * Baxter, T. M. S., 1992, ''The Cratylus: Plato’s Critique of Naming'', Leiden: Brill. * Calvert, B., 1970, ‘Forms and flux in Plato’s ''Cratylus''’, ''Phronesis'', 15: 26–47. * Grote, G., 1865, ''Plato and the Other Companions of Sokrates'', 3 vols., London: John Murray. * Kahn, C. H., 1973, ‘Language and ontology in the ''Cratylus''’, in E. N. Lee, A. P. D. Mourelatos, R. M. Rorty (ed.), ''Exegesis and Argument'', New York: Humanities Press, 152–76. * Ketchum, R. J., 1979, ‘Names, Forms and conventionalism: ''Cratylus'' 383–395’, ''Phronesis'', 24: 133–47 * Kretzmann, N., 1971, ‘Plato on the correctness of names’, ''American Philosophical Quarterly'', 8: 126–38 * Levin, S. B., 2001, ''The Ancient Quarrel between Philosophy and Poetry Revisited. Plato and the Literary Tradition'', Oxford: Oxford University Press. * Mackenzie, M. M., 1986, ‘Putting the ''Cratylus'' in its place’, ''Classical Quarterly'', 36: 124–50. * Robinson, R., 1969, ‘The theory of names in Plato’s ''Cratylus''’ and ‘A criticism of Plato’s ''Cratylus''’, in ''Essays in Greek Philosophy'', Oxford: Clarendon Press, 100–38. * Schofield, M., 1982, ‘The dénouement of the ''Cratylus''’, in Schofield and Nussbaum 1982: 61–81. * Schofield, M., and Nussbaum, M. (ed.), 1982, ''Language and Logos'', Cambridge: Cambridge University Press. * Silverman, A., 2001, ‘The end of the ''Cratylus'': limning the world’, ''Ancient Philosophy'', 21: 1–18. * Williams, B., 1982, ‘Cratylus’ theory of names and its refutation’, in Schofield and Nussbaum 1982: 83–93. * Allan, D. J., 1954, ‘The problem of Cratylus’, ''American Journal of Philology'', 75: 271–87. * Kirk, G. S., 1951, ‘The problem of Cratylus’, ''American Journal of Philology'', 72: 225–53. * Luce, J. V., 1964, ‘The date of the ''Cratylus''’, ''American Journal of Philology'', 85: 136–54. * Ross, W. D., 1955, ‘The date of Plato’s ''Cratylus''’, ''Revue Internationale de Philosophie'', 32: 187–96.


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