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Charles Reid (14 January 1864 - 25 October 1909) was a
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player.Bath, p37


Rugby Union career


Amateur career

Reid attended
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, and played
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for the Edinburgh Academicals . He was still a schoolboy of the academy when first capped by
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. In the match against in 1881, he played against his classmate Frank Wright at
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. Frank Wright was also seventeen at the time but - as a boarder from
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- represented the England side. At the end of the match, both of the boys were carried on the shoulders of their fans back to
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. He acquired a nickname of Hippo at the school; this does not refer to his being like a
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, but the fact that he didn't know the word for a horse, when asked once in an
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class at the
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.Bath, p101 After his schooling, he still played for Edinburgh Academicals. He later played for Perthshire.


Provincial career

He played for Edinburgh District in the inter-city match against Glasgow District in 1880. He later turned out for East of Scotland District that same season in their match against West of Scotland District in 1881.


International career

He was capped twenty-one times for between 1881 and 1888. Reid vies with
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for the title of the youngest player ever to be capped for - he was seventeen years and thirty six days old when he was capped against on 19 February 1881; however, Reid had lived through an extra leap year day, when he was capped in 1881, so Finlay generally gets that title.Bath, p65 He played at second row/lock.Bath, p137 As
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says, :"''Charles Reid's physique would never have appeared inadequate for any forward position; he was bigger than 's Tom Reid who was the biggest and heaviest forward the British Lions took to South Africa in 1955, and more or less the same height and weight as the great
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.''" Reid was 15 to 16 stone in weight, and 6 ft 3in.Massie, p7 The first historian of Scottish rugby, R.J. Phillips says that Reid "carried no superfluous weight and was as active as a well-trained ten-stone man", but that also, from his viewpoint in the 1920s, he was "Scotland's greatest forward." He played alongside some of the greats of the era including
Ninian Finlay Ninian Jamieson Finlay (31 January 1858 – 7 March 1936Godwin, p147) was a Scottish international rugby player.Bath, p136 He was capped nine times for between 1875–81, and is generally considered to be the youngest player ever to be capped ...
,
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and Bill Maclagan. He was said to be a proficient tackler, excellent at dribbling and Scotland only lost four times in his twenty one caps. He captained Scotland in 1887 to their first Home Championship win, and also won scored tries. He maintained an interest in rugby long after retiring from the game, and after the positional changes in the early 1890s, he wrote boldly: :"''Give me a forward team like we had in Manchester in 1882, and I don't care how many threequarter backs you have; we could go through them. We dribbled very close, and backed up the other so well that they could not get away, and they had fliers like Bolton against us. Dribbling and tackling are the characteristics of the Scottish forwards, and on them we depend to win.''" However, Massie disagrees with this statement, and says that over-dependence on aggressive forward play such as that supported by Reid led to European sides being beaten thoroughly by and when they toured. Outside of rugby Reid was also a noted exponent of the shot put. At the inaugural Scottish Athletics Championships in
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he placed third in the event, was second in
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and 1885, becoming Scottish champion in both
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and
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.


Medical career

He was a doctor by profession, and later ended up living in Selkirk.


Family

He was the brother of James Reid, who was capped five times for Scotland from 1871 to 1875, including the very first rugby international.Massie, p6


References

;Sources # Bath, Richard (ed.) ''The Scotland Rugby Miscellany'' (Vision Sports Publishing Ltd, 2007 ) # Massie, Allan ''A Portrait of Scottish Rugby'' (Polygon, Edinburgh; ) {{DEFAULTSORT:Reid, Charles 1909 deaths 1864 births Rugby union players from Renfrewshire People educated at Edinburgh Academy Scottish rugby union players Scotland international rugby union players Edinburgh Academicals rugby union players Perthshire RFC players Edinburgh District (rugby union) players East of Scotland District players Rugby union forwards