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Robert Frederick John (3 February 1899 – 17 July 1982) was a Welsh
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player and coach. Born in
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, John played for Barry Town and
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, before joining English club
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, who signed him, against stiff competition, in January 1922 for a fee of £750. John made his Arsenal first-team debut on 28 October 1922 in a 2–1 defeat at home to
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and quickly became a regular, succeeding Tom Whittaker at left half. His ability was such that soon after he made his debut for the Welsh national side, against
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on 17 March 1923; it was the first of fifteen caps. John was displaced from the Arsenal side in 1923–24 thanks to competition from Billy Blyth and
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, but after being switched to
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to cover for
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, he was a near ever-present in 1924–25. Eventually however, John was switched back to left half, and this time he remained a first-team regular. A prodigious ball-winner and noted passer of the ball, John reached (but lost) the
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with Arsenal in 1926–27, after a mistake by his compatriot and close friend Dan Lewis; it was John who consoled Lewis after the final whistle, assuring him he would get another chance to a win a medal (although Lewis never did). He played in Arsenal's 2–1 victory over Sheffield Wednesday in the Charity Shield at
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in October 1930. John remained in the Arsenal side through the first half of the 1930s, despite competition from
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. He finally won some silverware with an FA Cup win in
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, followed by three First Division titles, in 1930–31, 1932–33 and 1933–34, as well as the
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in
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and
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. John also scored Arsenal's only goal of the
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, in which Arsenal were controversially beaten by
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. By this time he was one of the senior members of the Arsenal squad, and mentored many of the club's younger new arrivals, such as Alex James. Although John played for Arsenal until his retirement in 1938, for the final three years of his career he was mainly a reserve player, having lost his place to
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, and thus missed out on a medal in the Gunners' League win of 1934–35. Nevertheless, he played 470 times for the club in total, the most of any of Arsenal's pre-
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players; as of 2006 he is tenth in the club's all-time appearances table. On retiring in 1938, John joined the coaching staff at
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. He later joined
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as trainer, working under his former Highbury teammate Jack Butler, but when Butler left for
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in May 1947, John followed, again as trainer. In 1949 he was appointed trainer-coach at
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, a position he held until March 1950 when he was appointed manager of Torquay United. He had an unsuccessful spell as manager at
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, winning only 7 of the 28 games he was in charge for and left his post in November 1950. He finished his football career as a scout for Cardiff City. He died in
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in 1982, at the age of 83. In 2008, his descendants loaned his shirts from the 1927, 1930 and 1932 FA Cup Finals to the Arsenal FC Museum.


Honours


As a player

Arsenal *
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: 1930–31, 1932–33, 1933–34 *
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winner: 1929–30; runner-up: 1926–27, 1931–32 *
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:
1930 Events January * January 15 – The Moon moves into its nearest point to Earth, called perigee, at the same time as its fullest phase of the Lunar Cycle. This is the closest moon distance at in recent history, and the next one will be ...
,
1933 Events January * January 11 – Sir Charles Kingsford Smith makes the first commercial flight between Australia and New Zealand. * January 17 – The United States Congress votes in favour of Philippines independence, against the wis ...
,
1934 Events January–February * January 1 – The International Telecommunication Union, a specialist agency of the League of Nations, is established. * January 15 – The 8.0 1934 Nepal–Bihar earthquake, Nepal–Bihar earthquake strik ...


References

* {{DEFAULTSORT:John, Bob 1899 births 1982 deaths Welsh footballers Wales international footballers Barry Town United F.C. players Caerphilly F.C. players Arsenal F.C. players Welsh football managers Torquay United F.C. managers Sportspeople from Barry, Vale of Glamorgan Association football defenders FA Cup Final players