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''A Question of Europe'' was a televised debate of the
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held on 3 June 1975. The debate was held two days before the 1975 referendum, in which the electorate were asked if Britain should remain a member of the
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(EEC) which it had joined in 1973. The statement debated was "that this House would say yes to Europe". Former prime minister
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and the leader of the Liberal Party
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spoke in favour of the motion and Labour ministers
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and
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spoke against it. Heath judged that the audience were largely in favour of the motion anyway and in the vote after the debate, the statement was approved by 493 votes to 92. The debate was broadcast live on
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with an introduction by
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and
Ludovic Kennedy Sir Ludovic Henry Coverley Kennedy (3 November 191918 October 2009) was a Scottish journalist, broadcaster, humanist and author best known for re-examining cases such as the Lindbergh kidnapping and the murder convictions of Timothy Evans and ...
; at the end of the programme
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provided an update on other developments in the referendum campaign. The result of the 5 June referendum was 67% in favour of remaining within the EEC.


Background

The
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(EEC), a
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for Western European nations, was founded by the 1957
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. In 1961 Conservative Prime Minister
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instructed the
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,
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to enter negotiations to join the EEC. This was vetoed by French president
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in 1963. Heath became prime minister in 1970 and, de Gaulle having resigned, resumed his application. Britain joined the EEC in 1973 after the ratification of the
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.
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's Labour Party won the
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, with a
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promising a referendum on continued British membership of the EEC. Wilson negotiated a number of concessions from the EEC regarding the
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, the level of British contribution to the EEC budget, harmonisation of VAT regulations, ongoing
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, and the maintenance of parliamentary sovereignty. Wilson announced a referendum on continued British membership of the EEC on 7 January 1975 to be held on 5 June. On 18 March Wilson's cabinet endorsed his renegotiation and the House of Commons voted to support them on 9 April. The Conservative Parliamentary Party largely supported continued membership. Heath was challenged for the leadership of the party in February and lost to future prime minister
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. Thatcher deliberately played a low-key role in the referendum, regarding Europe as "Ted's issue", Heath therefore played a more prominent role in the pro-EEC Britain in Europe campaign. The
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is a debating society associated with
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. It has held formal debates on contemporary and historic matters since the early 19th-century. The debates at this time were organised along formal lines, they followed a quasi-parliamentary procedure and all attendees wore
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. A debate on EEC membership was chosen for 3 June, just two days prior to the referendum. The statement for the debate, that attendees would vote whether to approve, was "that this House would say yes to Europe". The
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decided to cover the event live on
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and a slot in the schedule was allocated between 9:35 pm and 11:50 pm. The programme, entitled ''A Question of Europe'', was introduced by
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(who was a former president of the Oxford Union) and
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. The BBC's producers were Philip S. Gilbert, Tam Fry and its editor was Michael Townson. The event was anticipated as being one of the most historic to have been held by the Union.


Debate

Heath and Liberal Party leader
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spoke in favour of the statement and Labour
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and
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spoke against it. The debate was preceded by interviews of the speakers by Day and Kennedy and presided over by Oxford Union 1974/75 Trinity term president Victor van Amerongen. There were almost 600 attendees in the Union's debate chamber for the debate, amongst them was future Conservative minister
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, then a student at Oxford who attended wearing the stereotyped French dress of a beret, striped shirt, and string of onions. Heath wrote afterwards that he thought that the audience was largely pro-yes. Heath recalled, at the start of his oratory, that he had taken part in a Union debate as a student in which he opposed the
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in the lead up to the
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. Heath went on to argue that the EEC was a vital institution to demonstrate that Europe had progressed since the two World Wars and to ensure continued peace. He claimed that Britain would be better able to maintain its sovereignty from within the community than if it were apart from it and questioned how the anti-EEC campaign could claim to support parliamentary sovereignty yet oppose the result of the Commons vote on accession. Heath maintained that a no vote would lead to a "siege economy" with protectionist import and monetary controls. Thorpe questioned how Britain would obtain cheap food supplies if membership was not continued. He described anti-EEC campaigners as a "coalition of 19th-century imperialists and 20th-century Marxists". Thorpe asked that if membership was not continued from where else would the country source affordable food. Castle described the EEC as too exclusive indirectly citing the then principle of Community preference and that it would compel Britain to provide favourable treatment to its members in all fields, not just trade. She said that the EEC was a step towards creating a European
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that would be to the detriment of the poorer countries of the world. When Thorpe asked Castle if she would resign if the British public voted to remain a member, she replied that in such circumstances she considered that "my country will need me more than ever". This drew jeers from the crowd and seemed to displease Thorpe and Heath. Castle stated that she expected to lose the vote after the debate, as she considered the Union to be a part of The Establishment. During his speech Shore claimed that the sovereignty of parliament was central to British democracy. He stated that if it remained a member of the EEC the 1957
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, which founded the organisation, would effectively become Britain's first written constitution and one to which no British citizen had contributed (Britain considered it had an unwritten constitution). He also stated that "the message that comes out rom the yes campaignis fear, fear, fear. Fear because you won't have any food. Fear of unemployment. Fear that we've somehow been so reduced as a country that we can no longer, as it were, totter about in the world independent as a nation." Roger Berthoud, writing in ''The Times'', commended the standard of Shore's oratory and noted that he received applause even though most of the audience disagreed with his views. In the post-debate vote the statement "that this House would say yes to Europe" was approved by 493 votes to 92. The speakers and others retired after the event to the Union's President's Room to have drinks with van Amerongen. The BBC programme was concluded with a summary of other recent events in the referendum campaign presented by
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from London. The broadcast reached an audience of almost 11 million people.


Subsequent events

It was generally considered that Heath and Thorpe, who had both previously been presidents of the Union and were familiar with its debates, had performed best. As part of the broadcast commentary Day asked Kennedy what he thought of the applause at the end of Heath's speech; the reply was that it was "very deserved" for a "marvellous speech". Heath stated in his 1998 autobiography that he received letters of congratulations on his performance from actor Kenneth Williams and comedian Dave Allen. Heath also stated that he suspected Castle and Shore later regretted agreeing to take part in the debate. Castle herself wrote on the night of the debate that she thought her performance "a flop" and noted that she "sat down to the thinnest applause of the evening". She praised Heath for the strength of his oratory and genuineness. The debate was referred to as one of the most famous ever held at the Union by Latvian politician Valdis Dombrovskis during a 2018 Oxford Union debate on the statement that "the euro is stronger than ever". Quentin Letts noted in 2017 that Heath's main argument was one of agreement with the European project, rather than economical necessity. The EEC referendum took place on 5 June 1975 and, on a 64% turnout, returned a result of 67% in favour of continuing membership. The United Kingdom remained a member of the EEC and its successor, the European Union, until 31 January 2020 when it withdrew from the Union following the
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. Letts noted there were no complaints in 1975 about the electorate not being well-enough informed to make a decision, unlike after the 2016 referendum. Letts also noted that Shore brought up the use of fear by the "yes" campaign to persuade the elctorate, similar to complaints of a "
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" of economic ruin used by chancellor George Osborne in his pro-EU 2016 referendum campaign.


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